MTH header and tuner file combo
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Originally Posted by joker
did i read this right?
u own an R32??
wow thats a fine automobile!!ur callin' a 2004 old?
200 thats a hefty claim! sounds NiCE
btw, it weighs more than the cooper... i believe its 3200lbs stock... its a nice car, :smile:
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Originally Posted by BMDoubleU
well, guys i finaly got the header in the mail. i must say it is very pretty piece of metal... looks like you could put it up on the wall as piece abstract art.. most impressive. i will be getting my car dynoed next week and i i will post the results ASAP. my mods include alta intake, miltek exhaust, and mth-tuner file/header combo. i'm running 172whp right now with out the mth combo..so, it would be interesting to see what it will produce after it is all said and done. :smile: i'm hoping for 200whp. we shall see... any bets? 
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One of my customers has one of these MTH Manifolds and ECU Remap combo on his MINI COOPER Rally car...the difference....well night and day !!
Its transformed the car sooo much its unreal....so much power than anything ive ever felt before. Ive been in MINIs with so called performance manifolds etc but this is amazing.
I went on the Cheviot Rally in Scotland last weekend to help out with the rally team and also to make sure the car ran fine with the remap and the manifold. With some really rough terrain and tricky roads the car was faultless. The extra torque from the file and manifold really helped with the exteme hilly areas (which scotland is renowned for) The sound it produces is mesmorising!
Does he want power figures to prove the product does anything...no not really...he wants good results and the feeling its making a difference is certainly apparent to him, myself, his team and his stage times. He was struggling for grip most of the time
Awesome powerful/reliable product guys !
>>>10 second video of Rally car here
Its transformed the car sooo much its unreal....so much power than anything ive ever felt before. Ive been in MINIs with so called performance manifolds etc but this is amazing.
I went on the Cheviot Rally in Scotland last weekend to help out with the rally team and also to make sure the car ran fine with the remap and the manifold. With some really rough terrain and tricky roads the car was faultless. The extra torque from the file and manifold really helped with the exteme hilly areas (which scotland is renowned for) The sound it produces is mesmorising!
Does he want power figures to prove the product does anything...no not really...he wants good results and the feeling its making a difference is certainly apparent to him, myself, his team and his stage times. He was struggling for grip most of the time
Awesome powerful/reliable product guys !
>>>10 second video of Rally car here
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Originally Posted by Cooper_Si
One of my customers has one of these MTH Manifolds and ECU Remap combo on his MINI COOPER Rally car...the difference....well night and day !!
Its transformed the car sooo much its unreal....so much power than anything ive ever felt before. Ive been in MINIs with so called performance manifolds etc but this is amazing.
I went on the Cheviot Rally in Scotland last weekend to help out with the rally team and also to make sure the car ran fine with the remap and the manifold. With some really rough terrain and tricky roads the car was faultless. The extra torque from the file and manifold really helped with the exteme hilly areas (which scotland is renowned for) The sound it produces is mesmorising!
Does he want power figures to prove the product does anything...no not really...he wants good results and the feeling its making a difference is certainly apparent to him, myself, his team and his stage times. He was struggling for grip most of the time
Awesome powerful/reliable product guys !
>>>10 second video of Rally car here
Its transformed the car sooo much its unreal....so much power than anything ive ever felt before. Ive been in MINIs with so called performance manifolds etc but this is amazing.
I went on the Cheviot Rally in Scotland last weekend to help out with the rally team and also to make sure the car ran fine with the remap and the manifold. With some really rough terrain and tricky roads the car was faultless. The extra torque from the file and manifold really helped with the exteme hilly areas (which scotland is renowned for) The sound it produces is mesmorising!
Does he want power figures to prove the product does anything...no not really...he wants good results and the feeling its making a difference is certainly apparent to him, myself, his team and his stage times. He was struggling for grip most of the time
Awesome powerful/reliable product guys !
>>>10 second video of Rally car here
i should have the dyno today if nothing gets in my way..peace
:o)
yea thats the only thin' about that ride man, it IS so heavy....but.....ssss00000oo sweeeeeet!
Originally Posted by BMDoubleU
well, as you know the r32 makes 241hp at the crank.. with haledex AWD sucking power and all.. i figure about 200-210 that the wheels.. 22% powertrain loss... give or take... btw, it weighs more than the cooper... i believe its 3200lbs stock... its a nice car, :smile:
btw, it weighs more than the cooper... i believe its 3200lbs stock... its a nice car, :smile:
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Originally Posted by BMDoubleU
$1400... well worth it.. dyno graph coming tomorrow..
200whp with just a alta intake, miltek exhaust, and mth/header combo..
200whp with just a alta intake, miltek exhaust, and mth/header combo..
. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by skuzy
for 1400 u'd expect some decent results..
thinking about it.. ur basically paying $1000 for a header alone!
thinking about it.. ur basically paying $1000 for a header alone!
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Originally Posted by ingsoc
Exactly. I am curious how this will compare to the cheaper option of just tuner file tuned for a header like the Milltek. Certainly they won't 'tweak' the file if you've got a Milltek such that the performance is worse....?
The only thing is to trust they dont do that (and im sure they dont), and accept the fact that they probably did some serious R&D work in designing and producing the exhaust header.
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U can not compare a Milltek with our header. Totally different products, different cats, different build quality. And ours is the only one that is TÜV approved. There is a reason that nobody else has this. The file that comes with it will also not work with any other header.
We do not "down tune" the file when a customer is using another header. This is not how we like to do business.
Btw, price is 818 Euro excl. VAT and shipping. That comes to approx. US$ 980. Shipping to the states is 85 Euro (US $ 102).
@marvinthemanic
Nope, can not be done w/o cat.
We do not "down tune" the file when a customer is using another header. This is not how we like to do business.
Btw, price is 818 Euro excl. VAT and shipping. That comes to approx. US$ 980. Shipping to the states is 85 Euro (US $ 102).
@marvinthemanic
Nope, can not be done w/o cat.
so if ur sayin' that a milltek header will not peak out performance wise, (w/ur file) will a milltek Cat-bak exhaust affect ur power gains....i feel i may have asked this but any who!?!? what exhaust was used to test header & file?
Originally Posted by Volker@MTH
U can not compare a Milltek with our header. Totally different products, different cats, different build quality. And ours is the only one that is TÜV approved. There is a reason that nobody else has this. The file that comes with it will also not work with any other header.
We do not "down tune" the file when a customer is using another header. This is not how we like to do business.
Btw, price is 818 Euro excl. VAT and shipping. That comes to approx. US$ 980. Shipping to the states is 85 Euro (US $ 102).
@marvinthemanic
Nope, can not be done w/o cat.
We do not "down tune" the file when a customer is using another header. This is not how we like to do business.
Btw, price is 818 Euro excl. VAT and shipping. That comes to approx. US$ 980. Shipping to the states is 85 Euro (US $ 102).
@marvinthemanic
Nope, can not be done w/o cat.
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From: New Brunswick, NJ
Originally Posted by Cooper_Si
One of my customers has one of these MTH Manifolds and ECU Remap combo on his MINI COOPER Rally car...the difference....well night and day !!
Its transformed the car sooo much its unreal....so much power than anything ive ever felt before. Ive been in MINIs with so called performance manifolds etc but this is amazing.
I went on the Cheviot Rally in Scotland last weekend to help out with the rally team and also to make sure the car ran fine with the remap and the manifold. With some really rough terrain and tricky roads the car was faultless. The extra torque from the file and manifold really helped with the exteme hilly areas (which scotland is renowned for) The sound it produces is mesmorising!
Does he want power figures to prove the product does anything...no not really...he wants good results and the feeling its making a difference is certainly apparent to him, myself, his team and his stage times. He was struggling for grip most of the time
Awesome powerful/reliable product guys !
>>>10 second video of Rally car here
Its transformed the car sooo much its unreal....so much power than anything ive ever felt before. Ive been in MINIs with so called performance manifolds etc but this is amazing.
I went on the Cheviot Rally in Scotland last weekend to help out with the rally team and also to make sure the car ran fine with the remap and the manifold. With some really rough terrain and tricky roads the car was faultless. The extra torque from the file and manifold really helped with the exteme hilly areas (which scotland is renowned for) The sound it produces is mesmorising!
Does he want power figures to prove the product does anything...no not really...he wants good results and the feeling its making a difference is certainly apparent to him, myself, his team and his stage times. He was struggling for grip most of the time
Awesome powerful/reliable product guys !
>>>10 second video of Rally car here
readily reveals that this car is completely gutted and modded beyond what you're implying. Here are the mods, according to the site:
Engine / gearbox
M7 Enlarged Throttle Body
CST "RALLY" Remap (Courtesy of MTH Cartune)
CST/MTH Exhaust manifold
Standard Gearbox
Leda Forest Spec. Suspension
spherical front top mounts
1.5 degs - 2.0 degs negative camber.
Spax Tarmac Spec. Suspension-
adjustable for height, bump and rebound
Nylon rear top mount bushes
Eibach 2.25I.D. / 225lb springs at the front - Forest
Eibach 2.25I.D. / 150lb springs at the rear – Forest
Wheels-
15" Alloy wheels with Yokohama Gravel tyres – Forest
17" Alloy wheels with Michelin cut slick tyres – Tarmac
Extra`s-
Full roll cage
Carbon/Kevlar competition seats, sabelt quick release harnesses
Vertical hydraulic handbrake, Cockpit adjustable brake bias
Plumbed in fire extinguishers for cockpit and engine
Interior and exterior battery isolator switches
Alloy sump guard , Kevlar tank guard
Polycarbonate under body protection
Polycarbonate windows
Front strut brace
The car is completely gutted (massive weight savings) and has polycarb windows. It also seems to have a custom 'rally' ECU tune. I really don't feel that posting a clip of that car without revealing the above is fair. It certainly gave me a false impression.
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Originally Posted by Volker@MTH
And ours is the only one that is TÜV approved.
TUV approval means the product complies with legal exhaust-emissions standards. TUV testing includes:
· The use of quality materials in the manufacture of a given product in the automotive sector
· Emissions standards are of a similar nature of the original manufacturer
· No danger of the product in fitting or in use
· Power and economy stated figures are accurate and are not misleading
It seems pretty neat, that TUV approval is given when a part performs as it should. What power figures did MTH provide the TUV approval board before getting TUV approval? TUV approval does not, in itself, though, say that it makes the most power...
good find do0D!!
Originally Posted by ingsoc
I do not wish this to be anything but a comment, but I'm a bit disappointed in the way you're marketing this package by referencing the above car. A quick look at http://www.essentialmini.co.uk/RALLY.htm
readily reveals that this car is completely gutted and modded beyond what you're implying. Here are the mods, according to the site:
Engine / gearbox
M7 Enlarged Throttle Body
CST "RALLY" Remap (Courtesy of MTH Cartune)
CST/MTH Exhaust manifold
Standard Gearbox
Leda Forest Spec. Suspension
spherical front top mounts
1.5 degs - 2.0 degs negative camber.
Spax Tarmac Spec. Suspension-
adjustable for height, bump and rebound
Nylon rear top mount bushes
Eibach 2.25I.D. / 225lb springs at the front - Forest
Eibach 2.25I.D. / 150lb springs at the rear – Forest
Wheels-
15" Alloy wheels with Yokohama Gravel tyres – Forest
17" Alloy wheels with Michelin cut slick tyres – Tarmac
Extra`s-
Full roll cage
Carbon/Kevlar competition seats, sabelt quick release harnesses
Vertical hydraulic handbrake, Cockpit adjustable brake bias
Plumbed in fire extinguishers for cockpit and engine
Interior and exterior battery isolator switches
Alloy sump guard , Kevlar tank guard
Polycarbonate under body protection
Polycarbonate windows
Front strut brace
The car is completely gutted (massive weight savings) and has polycarb windows. It also seems to have a custom 'rally' ECU tune. I really don't feel that posting a clip of that car without revealing the above is fair. It certainly gave me a false impression.
readily reveals that this car is completely gutted and modded beyond what you're implying. Here are the mods, according to the site:
Engine / gearbox
M7 Enlarged Throttle Body
CST "RALLY" Remap (Courtesy of MTH Cartune)
CST/MTH Exhaust manifold
Standard Gearbox
Leda Forest Spec. Suspension
spherical front top mounts
1.5 degs - 2.0 degs negative camber.
Spax Tarmac Spec. Suspension-
adjustable for height, bump and rebound
Nylon rear top mount bushes
Eibach 2.25I.D. / 225lb springs at the front - Forest
Eibach 2.25I.D. / 150lb springs at the rear – Forest
Wheels-
15" Alloy wheels with Yokohama Gravel tyres – Forest
17" Alloy wheels with Michelin cut slick tyres – Tarmac
Extra`s-
Full roll cage
Carbon/Kevlar competition seats, sabelt quick release harnesses
Vertical hydraulic handbrake, Cockpit adjustable brake bias
Plumbed in fire extinguishers for cockpit and engine
Interior and exterior battery isolator switches
Alloy sump guard , Kevlar tank guard
Polycarbonate under body protection
Polycarbonate windows
Front strut brace
The car is completely gutted (massive weight savings) and has polycarb windows. It also seems to have a custom 'rally' ECU tune. I really don't feel that posting a clip of that car without revealing the above is fair. It certainly gave me a false impression.
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Originally Posted by BMDoubleU
$1400... well worth it.. dyno graph coming tomorrow..
200whp with just a alta intake, miltek exhaust, and mth/header combo..
200whp with just a alta intake, miltek exhaust, and mth/header combo..
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Originally Posted by skuzy
dyno graph coming this year or next? lol sorry im just impatient.
