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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 03:12 PM
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Intake Shootout/Dyno Day

TEAMMIGHTYMINIZ Announces the Intake Shootout/Dyno Day
Time to address this issue



Ok San Diego MINI owners, now it is our turn to try something out…



A Dyno Day

We would like to invite everyone to attend a Dyno Day held at JBA Racing in San Diego Saturday, October 29, 2005. We have a limit of 13 cars for the day. The deal is 2 pulls for $45.00. Below is the reservation list. If there are any no-shows, we will fill the spaces on a first-come first-served basis. Dyno for the shootout will begin around 8 AM and others at around 9 AM. Sign-up below if you would like to get a Dyno of your car.

In conjunction with the Dyno Day, TMMZ will be conducting a shootout between various air intake systems. We will be installing and testing each intake at the dyno event. We invite everyone to come and watch the numbers for these various intakes. We will be testing Alta, Helix and M7 and possibly others.

For installation of the intakes, the guys from Creative Autoworks have agreed to help out. Providing a neutral opinion for installation, they have many years of experience with tuning cars. They are excited to paricipate with the shootout to help break-in their new facility.

Creative Autoworks is located just around the block from the Dyno location. They have offered to do other installations a BBQ, and have offered some great deals. So if you are interested, please give them a call (858.279.8900) so they can order your parts.



The TEAMMIGHTY MINIZ Air Intake Shootout

The Test Procedure....

The Intake Shootout shall be performed using a stock MINI Cooper S (One car will be used).

Prior to any modifications, a check for engine oil temperature shall be noted, and an initial dyno test shall be performed.

A third party will be used for installations. The car shall be allowed to cool or heat until oil temperature matches the initial number. If possible, after each dyno test the installer will take a short test drive to feel the difference.

The Comparisons….

HP
Bling
Ease of Installation
Overall feel
Cost vs. hp

The products (listed alphabetically) – Alta, Helix and M7 AGS-V.2 (possibly more)

The When….

Saturday, October 29, 2005

Everyone is invited to come down and witness the event. We encourage proponents of each Air Intake to witness the testing.



Dyno Reservations:

1. hollis – intake car
2. idiaz
3. polyclef
4. Android993
5. tCool
6. Monster8V
7. Sire
8. worksed
9. Sean
10. Mitssn
11. Bill Kunz (Cosworth)
 
Old Oct 11, 2005 | 04:23 PM
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Two suggestions, humbly submitted.

1. Please test the JCW. Please.

2. Reset the computer after every run. Otherwise it will "learn" as you go and the later tests will have skewed results.
 
Old Oct 11, 2005 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MrV
Two suggestions, humbly submitted.

1. Please test the JCW. Please.

2. Reset the computer after every run. Otherwise it will "learn" as you go and the later tests will have skewed results.
Also, how about trying the Helix or like with the Alta intake tube. There are a few of us wondering if there's any noticeable differences.

As for reseting the computer, what happens when the ECU doesn't have time to "learn" to use the extra air its getting? I understand the different ECU's will have different learned habits but what happens when you want them to learn what they can do with the mods installed?
 
Old Oct 11, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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Good suggestions.

1. We have requested the JCW. The local dealer will not do this by itself, and says that it must be part of the entire kit. A different place has not responded.

2. The plan is to reset the computer before each test (including the stock). The biggest key is consistancy.

as for the third - i will try to get that included.
 
Old Oct 11, 2005 | 06:30 PM
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do the HAI as well if you can
 
Old Oct 11, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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Can't wait to see those results!
 
Old Oct 11, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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Great idea!!! Wish I could be there. Oh well, job comes first.
 
Old Oct 11, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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"cant wait to see those results"

.........no doubt!?!?!?
 
Old Oct 11, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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I'm in for it. I have a JCW but with some mods.
 
Old Oct 11, 2005 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Android993
I'm in for it. I have a JCW but with some mods.
Great Android, It should be a fun day.
 
Old Oct 11, 2005 | 07:43 PM
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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I have had a few questions, each of the intakes will be new including the AGS-V.2.
 
Old Oct 11, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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Hai!

I'll chip in $20 twards the purchase of one if you don't get someone with one on a car.....

Matt
 
Old Oct 12, 2005 | 06:57 AM
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thanks for taking on this task, esp knowing that there will be posts after posts of people questioning everything!

Is there a way that you could set up a video camera in the exact same location & video the runs to get an idea of intake noise as well? Granted, I know it is different that being in the car, and the rollers make some noise, but it would be great to have sound clips from teh same car on the same day under the same results.

I would also hope that you could score a JCW intake by then, as well as the HAI.

thanks!

-jac
 
Old Oct 12, 2005 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by fishbulb
thanks for taking on this task, esp knowing that there will be posts after posts of people questioning everything!

Is there a way that you could set up a video camera in the exact same location & video the runs to get an idea of intake noise as well? Granted, I know it is different that being in the car, and the rollers make some noise, but it would be great to have sound clips from teh same car on the same day under the same results.

I would also hope that you could score a JCW intake by then, as well as the HAI.

thanks!

-jac

Yup, this will be recorded. The tests will be recorded to portray the consistency between tests, and to allow people to hear the sound of each intake as it's being revved. We also plan to document the install process so people can get an idea of what is involved in each installation.

In terms of the HAI and JCW, we are in contact with MINI dealers and K&N officials about obtaining the test intake (K&N - both about their intake kit, and the filter necessary for the HAI). We too hope that they are able to provide us with some nice test pieces. We would like all intakes to have equal chances, so using a USED intake (from someone else's car) would be less than desirable. Of course, we will let you know about any updates regarding the availability of the test pieces.

And if you are in the area, please feel free to stop by. What better way to gauge which intake noises you like than to actually be their while the MCS howls on the dyno :smile: .

Please, continue with any questions you have. We will try to answer them as soon as possible :smile: This is for the community, and we want to try catering this to what you guys need/want.

Cheers
 
Old Oct 12, 2005 | 07:18 AM
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Are you going to be at the dyno?
 
Old Oct 12, 2005 | 07:29 AM
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Are you going to be at the dyno?
If you are reffering to me, the answer is, unfortunately, no. I live out in Ohio, and I am unable to take any time off of school right now. We do have some of our east coast members who are going to make the trip all the way out for this. :smile: And the west coast members who are available will be there as well. :smile:

(needless to say, the members from europe probably won't be making it either )
 
Old Oct 12, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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This could get very interesting.
 
Old Oct 12, 2005 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by RallyMINI
Yup, this will be recorded. The tests will be recorded to portray the consistency between tests, and to allow people to hear the sound of each intake as it's being revved. We also plan to document the install process so people can get an idea of what is involved in each installation.

In terms of the HAI and JCW, we are in contact with MINI dealers and K&N officials about obtaining the test intake (K&N - both about their intake kit, and the filter necessary for the HAI). We too hope that they are able to provide us with some nice test pieces. We would like all intakes to have equal chances, so using a USED intake (from someone else's car) would be less than desirable. Of course, we will let you know about any updates regarding the availability of the test pieces.

And if you are in the area, please feel free to stop by. What better way to gauge which intake noises you like than to actually be their while the MCS howls on the dyno :smile: .

Please, continue with any questions you have. We will try to answer them as soon as possible :smile: This is for the community, and we want to try catering this to what you guys need/want.

Cheers
 
Old Oct 14, 2005 | 02:14 PM
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This is gonna be a blast.. and pretty informative. Can't wait to see you all there!

It will be nice to see the results in person, with my own eyes, knowing that they are fair.... I own an aftermarket intake and I hope mine does good

Has this been posted in the SoCal region forum?

We need to get some more people to come out and dyno and hang out with MINI owners
 
Old Oct 16, 2005 | 11:28 AM
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So, who all will be bringing their cars out??? I can't make it for this one, but I heard it's gonna be a hoot. Part dyno day, part partay! Can't get any better !
 
Old Oct 16, 2005 | 01:51 PM
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I'm gonna be there!! Come on out peeps!
 
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 12:28 PM
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I'm gonna be there!! Come on out peeps!

You know you want to, a good time will be had by all.
 
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 09:16 PM
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I think I'll go for the GOOD Time.

I hope I can make it to San Diego to meet all of the TEAMMIGHTYMINIZ people! These results will determine a lot for me and many others I'm sure!
 
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It would be cool to get some dyno days started in San Diego.
 



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