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Old Jan 14, 2020 | 08:06 AM
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mine does the same thing, my justa did as well. I like my sprint booster. I think it helps throttle be quicker and turbo seems to spin in faster.

Just as a side not for those with issues. Did you disconnect the battery when you installed and remove battery from the key

im not quite sure what your asking. Remove battery? Key? Also do you have the sprint booster with elite?
 
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Old Jan 14, 2020 | 08:11 AM
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so I know people have had issues with CEL after installing the Elite. The directions ask you to remove the negative cable from the car battery and to make sure the key fob is far enough away to not transmit to the car. I just took the battery out of the key fob.

When I installed my Elite I followed the direction by removing battery from key fob and disconnecting the negative battery cable on the car. When I got everything installed the car told me that it needed to reset the computer. It took several miles of driving for everything to get back dialed in with the computer.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2020 | 08:30 AM
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I did not disconnect the battery. To me it was just unplugging a couple plugs. I made sure the key was far away though
 
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Old Jan 14, 2020 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ny_yankee
I did not disconnect the battery. To me it was just unplugging a couple plugs. I made sure the key was far away though
So unplugging the battery resets the computer so I wonder if that helps avoid CEL's
 
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Old Jan 14, 2020 | 05:54 PM
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I finally got my Dinan removed and while at the shop I met Steve Dinan himself and spoke with him briefly. He mentioned to me that ever since he sold the Dinan brand, the quality of the products went downhill and he's not happy at all that his name is being tied to whatever products is now being sold. He is disappointed his name is being dragged the way it has. He is working on something new that focuses on software instead and offered me to be part of a test program. I left him my info but it sounds like he has no trust in whatever Dinan sells now.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2020 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyJCW
I finally got my Dinan removed and while at the shop I met Steve Dinan himself and spoke with him briefly. He mentioned to me that ever since he sold the Dinan brand, the quality of the products went downhill and he's not happy at all that his name is being tied to whatever products is now being sold. He is disappointed his name is being dragged the way it has. He is working on something new that focuses on software instead and offered me to be part of a test program. I left him my info but it sounds like he has no trust in whatever Dinan sells now.

Well, his sell agreement should have included a quality maintenance clause or such guarantee to insure the Dinan name would be maintained....maybe he feels helpless because there is no recourse for him at this time. Sadly when money takes a front seat in product development with a lesser emphasis on “quality regardless of the cost” things go downhill! Steve should have seen this coming & at least had protection in his agreement to protect his name. I remember calling out West to their shop back in the early 90’s and I ordered a gen 4 Dinan chip for my “88 BMW M5....it came fast including DINAN window stickers which the car still proudly displays! The chip did what it was suppose to do & has never been a problem. It’s sad that this is happening to Dinan. Steve was instrumental in the development of the technology that continues in our cars today.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2020 | 05:46 AM
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well that is sad that the quality has gone down, especially since his name is attached. If he is going to continue and work at tuning cars, then why did he sell the brand? Seems like everyone is more worried about the money than the quality....including Mr. Dinan. Unfortunate this is the world we live in. I purchased my Elite used so hopefully it was manufactured before the quality issues.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2020 | 11:46 AM
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LOL, at the risk of swimming upstream my experience with the Dinan Elite, installed last year, has met or exceeded my expectations in all regards.

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Old Jan 15, 2020 | 12:26 PM
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I "knock on wood" have not had any issues with mine either.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2020 | 01:25 PM
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Pretty sad for a company to have a performance product that customers have to hold their breath or knock on wood. Mine has worked well although it isn't always as predictable in the boost department from day to day. Never an error code or misstep.

Fingers crossed! lol
 
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Old Jan 15, 2020 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 02fanatic
Well, his sell agreement should have included a quality maintenance clause or such guarantee to insure the Dinan name would be maintained....maybe he feels helpless because there is no recourse for him at this time. Sadly when money takes a front seat in product development with a lesser emphasis on “quality regardless of the cost” things go downhill! Steve should have seen this coming & at least had protection in his agreement to protect his name. I remember calling out West to their shop back in the early 90’s and I ordered a gen 4 Dinan chip for my “88 BMW M5....it came fast including DINAN window stickers which the car still proudly displays! The chip did what it was suppose to do & has never been a problem. It’s sad that this is happening to Dinan. Steve was instrumental in the development of the technology that continues in our cars today.
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well that is sad that the quality has gone down, especially since his name is attached. If he is going to continue and work at tuning cars, then why did he sell the brand? Seems like everyone is more worried about the money than the quality....including Mr. Dinan. Unfortunate this is the world we live in. I purchased my Elite used so hopefully it was manufactured before the quality issues.
I'm not sure if a person buying a company like that would agree to that clause because so many stipulations would have to go along with it that it would make the whole process of selling/buying the brand more complicated. When we chatted, he expressed that he trusted whoever he sold it to but apparently that is all out the window now. Whatever his reason for selling either for money or simply he doesn't have time to manage the business doesn't matter in my opinion but he could have protected his name by holding the rights to it. I do agree he is instrumental and made a huge impact in the industry and the car world.

Originally Posted by Minnie.the.Moocher
Pretty sad for a company to have a performance product that customers have to hold their breath or knock on wood. Mine has worked well although it isn't always as predictable in the boost department from day to day. Never an error code or misstep.

Fingers crossed! lol
I agree too! It is sad that customers are rolling the dice. Happy to hear some people aren't experiencing any issues.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2020 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 02fanatic
Well, his sell agreement should have included a quality maintenance clause
Or, if you’re looking at it from the buyers perspective, the deal should have included a non-disclosure agreement that the seller not bad mouth the company that I just bought from you. (I’m tryin’ to be funny... I hope the units work great for our fellow Mini enthusiasts)
 

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Old Jan 16, 2020 | 06:05 AM
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Trying to go online to register my Elite and can't even do that. This is the address they give with the unit. I put in my Mac address and it says "Mac not found"


https://decus.dinancars.com/retail
 
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Old Jan 16, 2020 | 09:18 AM
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Did you try this at the bottom of that box?
For DINANTronics Elite v2 registration, please click here
 
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Old Jan 23, 2020 | 07:07 AM
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Started the car this morning because we don’t have a remote start lol to warm it up. Idled for like 20 min and when I got in I had a CEL. Was going to unplug the Dinan and wing it! But I just re started the car and it was fine for my commute. Hoping it never happens again but I highly doubt it.

thanks for that link to register I will try it today.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Minnie.the.Moocher
Did you try this at the bottom of that box?
For DINANTronics Elite v2 registration, please click here
Even the directions that came with it are incomplete. Says nothing about a wiring harness id. Not explained until you get to the faxable application.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 09:09 AM
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Even the directions that came with it are incomplete. Says nothing about a wiring harness id. Not explained until you get to the faxable application.
It has become a sad company to deal with. lol I have a fax machine but no phone line anymore.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 09:33 AM
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So far, after over 3 years, and now installed in my second MINI Clubman S All4, my little $250 Dinan Sport box, set to Sport+, continues to deliver the grins I was seeking when I first purchased it in December, 2016. Smartphone app is still not great, but who cares?

I think the trick is in losing that little gray plug clip -- I have managed to do it twice. On the installation in the second car, using Moocher's needle nose technique, no blood. Hope I didn't jinx it, but, so far, very happy and no codes. Sometimes, like so much else in life, I think the simple solution is best.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 03:16 AM
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If I read this right - Did you install the Dinan Sport on the 2020 Clubman -I assume it is not a JCW as I was told by Dinan they do not have anything the works with the 301 HP engine yet
 
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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by JCW 1
If I read this right - Did you install the Dinan Sport on the 2020 Clubman -I assume it is not a JCW as I was told by Dinan they do not have anything the works with the 301 HP engine yet
I took the Dinan Sport off my 2017 S All4 at lease end and recently installed the same take-off Dinan unit on my new 2020 Clubman S All4. Works great.
I am not familiar with the sensor connections on the new JCW, so I don't know what would happen if you could, and did, plug a Dinan Sport or an NM single sensor box into the new JCW.
I can't imagine needing the extra boost in the 300hp version of the engine -- I think BMW has done the work for you. The new from-the-factory JCW Clubman rips!!
But if you're feelin' the need for a few extra psi, I'd call the excellent folks at NM in Camarillo California. When I was researching boxes, the engineer at NM was great to talk with. Based on what people are saying about their recent Dinan adventures, I think I'd look hard at NM, if it would work in the new JCW.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 09:39 AM
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It is fast for sure stock - but I would like to get the car into the 12 second range - Not sure what NM stands for - could you give me a phone number and contact
 
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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 10:24 AM
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It is fast for sure stock - but I would like to get the car into the 12 second range - Not sure what NM stands for - could you give me a phone number and contact
http://www.nm-eng.com/home.aspx
 
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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 2017All4
I took the Dinan Sport off my 2017 S All4 at lease end and recently installed the same take-off Dinan unit on my new 2020 Clubman S All4. Works great.
I am not familiar with the sensor connections on the new JCW, so I don't know what would happen if you could, and did, plug a Dinan Sport or an NM single sensor box into the new JCW.
I can't imagine needing the extra boost in the 300hp version of the engine -- I think BMW has done the work for you. The new from-the-factory JCW Clubman rips!!
But if you're feelin' the need for a few extra psi, I'd call the excellent folks at NM in Camarillo California. When I was researching boxes, the engineer at NM was great to talk with. Based on what people are saying about their recent Dinan adventures, I think I'd look hard at NM, if it would work in the new JCW.
Interesting, but I called up Dinan as I wanted to install the 2019 JCW Elite unit e on a new 2020 and they said that it would not work on a 2020. That they were waiting on a test car before they could have a part for it.

According to you it will work, but I guess since its not officially approved from Dinan, I wouldn't be getting the warranty coverage which would be the main reason to go with them. Guess I will have to keep on waiting until someone loans them a vehicle for them to test on.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 07:23 AM
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Interesting, but I called up Dinan as I wanted to install the 2019 JCW Elite unit e on a new 2020 and they said that it would not work on a 2020. That they were waiting on a test car before they could have a part for it.

According to you it will work....
I have no idea if the Dinan Sport will work on a 2020 JCW Clubman or Countryman. What I said was, "so I don't know what would happen if you could, and did, plug a Dinan Sport or an NM single sensor box into the new JCW." Sorry if I was unclear.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 2017All4
I have no idea if the Dinan Sport will work on a 2020 JCW Clubman or Countryman. What I said was, "so I don't know what would happen if you could, and did, plug a Dinan Sport or an NM single sensor box into the new JCW." Sorry if I was unclear.
Actually we are both talking about the same thing, you stated in your previous post that you put your 2017 "S" unit inside of your 2020 "S" unit and it worked. Prior to me getting the 2020 JCW I was considering just going with an S. I had called up Dinan and asked if I could take the 2019 unit and put it on the new 2020 DCT car. They said "No" also to that, in that their unit had only been tested for the 2019 and below units and they have to runt tests for the 2020. This is why I got the JCW from the Jump so I could have the power there, later on I called up status on the 2020 and asked the same question about using the current older unit and still got the same no. Although I get that the unit you swapped with the Sport and not the Elite, and that is not what I asked them about, I am sure I would have gotten the same answer.

I was just pointing out that you had just slapped the (older 2017) unit on your car, and amazingly it worked, which is good for you, and good for us to know for anyone who wants to run it in their 2020 currently "unofficially".

It would appear as of now that none of these companies have gotten any of their hands on any of the 2020 Base/S/JCW models as non of them seem to be offering any tuning options for the 2020 models, which sucks considering they have been out for 5 months now.
 
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