Front brake choices
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Front brake choices
Have a 2006 GP1 and do a lot of track events. Coming out of many Porsches I am used to a pretty sold brake feel and performance to boot. Running the stock front brakes, the pedal gets pretty soft mid-way through a track session. So I figure it is time to upgrade.
I will most likely go with the Willwood Big Brake Kit. Any recommendations on which kit to use and who has the best price? I am running 18" stock wheels, but plan to source a set of 17''s pretty soon.
And is it okay to run Wilwood up front and stock in the back? I do plan to upgrade the back at some point, but want to tackle the fronts first. Does anyone else run the Wilwood Front / Stock Rear set up?
Thanks in advance!
I will most likely go with the Willwood Big Brake Kit. Any recommendations on which kit to use and who has the best price? I am running 18" stock wheels, but plan to source a set of 17''s pretty soon.
And is it okay to run Wilwood up front and stock in the back? I do plan to upgrade the back at some point, but want to tackle the fronts first. Does anyone else run the Wilwood Front / Stock Rear set up?
Thanks in advance!
#2
Having helped hundreds of MINI owners with their brake kit purchase I can assure you most only purchased a front kit. Probably on the order of 4:1
Now while I have some killer four wheel (4X) kit deals that make for serious values..any and all of the front kits be had stand alone. And function very well.
Bias will be shifted to the front with a front only but really on such a car that's not a big deal. You carry the rear wheels into the braking zone so much that the rears don't truly do a helluva lot. That being said the one short coming of the rear is heat. As in boiled rear brake fluid on the track. The rotor is simply undersized for a lot of heat. Adding a rear rotor kit alone will add back some of that bias but mainly manage heat better. *Just run a crappy pad in it now, you'll be fine.
Wheel size will have an impact here. A 17 will allow you to run up to 13" kits. Be it the DP6 front kit or our more track worthy TCE 13" kit. Had you stayed in the 18s you could run a full 14" kit! Ok..not that you really need one but they do look quite nice!
Now while I have some killer four wheel (4X) kit deals that make for serious values..any and all of the front kits be had stand alone. And function very well.
Bias will be shifted to the front with a front only but really on such a car that's not a big deal. You carry the rear wheels into the braking zone so much that the rears don't truly do a helluva lot. That being said the one short coming of the rear is heat. As in boiled rear brake fluid on the track. The rotor is simply undersized for a lot of heat. Adding a rear rotor kit alone will add back some of that bias but mainly manage heat better. *Just run a crappy pad in it now, you'll be fine.
Wheel size will have an impact here. A 17 will allow you to run up to 13" kits. Be it the DP6 front kit or our more track worthy TCE 13" kit. Had you stayed in the 18s you could run a full 14" kit! Ok..not that you really need one but they do look quite nice!
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What brake fluid are you running?
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#5
Rob, I don't want to talk you out of bigger brakes and I don't know what tracks you are running on but I have a few suggestions. First of all, if you haven't made the front brake ducts on your GP functional, you need to. (do a search on this forum for the how to) Secondly, I don't know what pads you run but I would suggest Hawk DTC60 front and rear. (never let the pads go below the equivalent thickness of the backing plate). Third, bleed your brakes no further out than 2-3 days before an event. Fourth (and I may be preachin' to the choir here): The secret to no brake fade is to use them as little as possible to get the job done but as firmly as possible when you do. I've been running this car for 10 years now (30,000+ track miles) and have never lost my brakes.
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Have a 2006 GP1 and do a lot of track events. Coming out of many Porsches I am used to a pretty sold brake feel and performance to boot. Running the stock front brakes, the pedal gets pretty soft mid-way through a track session. So I figure it is time to upgrade.
I will most likely go with the Willwood Big Brake Kit. Any recommendations on which kit to use and who has the best price? I am running 18" stock wheels, but plan to source a set of 17''s pretty soon.
And is it okay to run Wilwood up front and stock in the back? I do plan to upgrade the back at some point, but want to tackle the fronts first. Does anyone else run the Wilwood Front / Stock Rear set up?
Thanks in advance!
I will most likely go with the Willwood Big Brake Kit. Any recommendations on which kit to use and who has the best price? I am running 18" stock wheels, but plan to source a set of 17''s pretty soon.
And is it okay to run Wilwood up front and stock in the back? I do plan to upgrade the back at some point, but want to tackle the fronts first. Does anyone else run the Wilwood Front / Stock Rear set up?
Thanks in advance!
I run TCE's Plus 1 kit with the 12.2 rotor on the front and the stock brakes on the back. In fact, I run the Carbotech XP8 in the rears with the Wilwood track pad in the front. It works well. With most of the braking up front anyway, the backs do little work. But just watch that the backs are not getting over heated. Point being, you can wait to do the rears.
For you, a better option than the Plus 1 kit might be the Plus 3a TCE 13" kit which is a true track kit. It runs a lot thicker pad that the Wilwood kit and it handle heat really well. I also have pads for you for this kit if you go with it...
No matter which way you go, you will probably want to do the brake ducts as NC TRACKRAT suggested. He left you some links on your other thread on how to do it.
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