There is this mini for sale nearby and the dealer obviously doesn't know MINIs. How can i tell if this is a JCW factory car (GP?) or some installed JCW components?

http://www.wilsonmotor.com/used-inve...seHistory=true

VIN is WMWRE33586TL18857

thanks

Nothing JCW(or turbocharged) about that MINI except the wheels.

Form the photos I see an aftermarket rear adjustable sway bar,Brembo front BBK,Aero Kit,clear arch lights and the exhaust is either a JCW or an aftermarket setup but definately not stock.

This dealer/writer has no idea what he's talking about! Firstly, he posts "its Turbo", but it's a clearly a 2006 i.e. supercharger, and right there I lose faith in this dealership. Yet, I continue to gather facts. There are no pics of the engine but here's what I can tell you from the pics that *are* posted:

2006 MINI Cooper S
JCW Wheels
Factory Aero kit
Brembo Brakes
Chrono Pack
Auto A/C
Aftermarket switch for Rally Lights (One empty spot in toggle panel goes to fog lights.)
Blacked out belt line
Blacked out side scuttles
White aftermarket reflectors in front/rear fender panels
Silverlight front turn signal indicators (i.e. egg yolk killers)
Aftermarket Rear SwayBar - can't tell the brand.


Interpretation: Original owner was at least 1/2 modder. At least cosmetically. May or may not know what they're doing, but this is definately not a JCW MINI. If it were a true JCW there would be emblems on the driver side lower grill (Image #2) and rear bonnet (Image #3). Personally, I would demand photos of or access to the engine compartment.


At 38500 miles KBB says it's worth $15,455 in Excellent condition.

There are 20 CARFAX records on this 2006 MINI COOPER S. May confirm a clean title history or uncover potential problems. Find out by ordering the CARFAX Vehicle History Report.

Original owner was certainly a MINI enthusiast. With enough research you could probably track down the owner of this nice ride! (plug: I'll sell you mine w/ 29k on it for 16k!)

it is a pretty clean ride, but not worth what they're asking. FWIW... I have no dog in this hunt.


Hope that helps!

Webb Extreme Bar ($500)


Wow. Carmax gave me $19k for my '06 with 21k miles in October. KBB = way off if that's dealer retail you quoted

To add my two cents here...

-its not a GP. Those are Thunder blue with Red mirror caps and GP id # on the roof.
-Looks lowered... JCW suspension or afterarket cant tell. need to see the springs..
-VIN shows it is a Nov 2005 build ..reference here.. so it is an 06 model year.-
-Aftermarket sun roof deflector on top..
-Short antenna
-The stereo is the standard stereo not HK.
-Does not have heated seats.. - so probably not the cold weather package.
-Looks like the front cig lighter is missing or not in the socket.

If you provide pics of the engine bay and the underside I could share more..

Hope that helps

Why is everyone getting so worked up over a modded MINI???

My 13" front and 11.75 rear brake set-up. $1900+ new.

Overpriced? Not for a dealer to sell really.
Wonder what they traded it in on??

The dealer is a ford/nissan shop, so maybe they traded it in for a z or something.

Not sure how this will come out, but here is the carfax report - looks okay

A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. CARFAX checked over 6 billion vehicle history events and found 20 record(s) for this 2006 MINI COOPER S (WMWRE33586TL18857).
Purchased: 2006 Type: Personal Where: Florida Est. miles/year: --- Est. length owned: 4/27/06 - 9/18/06
(4 months)
Date: Mileage: Source: Comments: 12/13/2005 5 Ferman Automotive Group
Greater Tampa Bay Area, FL
www.fermanauto.com Washed/detailed
01/18/2006 6 Ferman Automotive Group
Greater Tampa Bay Area, FL
www.fermanauto.com Vehicle serviced
04/27/2006 Ferman Automotive Group
Greater Tampa Bay Area, FL
www.fermanauto.com Vehicle sold
04/27/2006 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Lakeland, FL Registered as
personal vehicle
04/27/2006 188 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Lakeland, FL
Title #0095843982 Odometer reading reported
05/12/2006 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Lakeland, FL
Title #0095843982 Title issued or updated
Registration issued or renewed
First owner reported
Registered as
personal vehicle
Vehicle color noted as White
05/15/2006 798 Ferman Automotive Group
Greater Tampa Bay Area, FL
www.fermanauto.com Vehicle serviced

Purchased: 2006 Type: Personal Where: Florida Est. miles/year: --- Est. length owned: 9/18/06 - 8/20/08
(1 yr. 11 mo.)
Date: Mileage: Source: Comments: 09/18/2006 4,182 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Orlando, FL
Title #0095843982 Odometer reading reported
09/19/2006 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Orlando, FL
Title #0095843982 Title issued or updated
New owner reported
Loan or lien reported
12/07/2006 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Orlando, FL
Title #0095843982 Registration issued or renewed
Registered as
personal vehicle
Loan or lien reported
Vehicle color noted as White
12/09/2007 Florida
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Orlando, FL
Title #0095843982 Registration issued or renewed
Registered as
personal vehicle
Loan or lien reported
Vehicle color noted as White
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