JCW Garage Interested in John Cooper Works (JCW) parts for your 1st Generation MINI? This is where JCW upgrades and accessories for the Cooper (R50), Cabrio (R52), and Cooper S (R53) MINIs are discussed.

JCW turbo?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 09:00 AM
  #1  
MiniQuin's Avatar
MiniQuin
Thread Starter
|
2nd Gear
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 96
Likes: 0
JCW turbo?

Hello all, I am a newbie as you can see. I am trying to find out if I could add the jcw turbo kit in the near future? I am on a budget right now and if I could just get the mini cooper with all the things i want on it without the turbo, i'll get the turbo later down the road. I haven't bought a mini cooper yet but I will once I do some homework. Oh, im getting a automatic. I am 6'8 I hate driving a standard.hehe
 
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 10:30 AM
  #2  
Rastven's Avatar
Rastven
4th Gear
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 529
Likes: 0
From: South Orange, NJ
I'm sure you could turbo an older cooper but why not just buy a brand new R56 MCS which has a turbo from the factory? Probably way cheaper and way more reliable.
 
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 10:42 AM
  #3  
polizei's Avatar
polizei
6th Gear
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,398
Likes: 0
From: Cincinnati, Ohio
JCW doesn't make a turbo kit, but you can put a turbo on a coop. You'll have to do price checks, and see what fits in your budget...I could be wrong, but I believe every turbo'd MC is a custom.

There are turbo kits that "bolt on" for the MCS though, and you can either continue to use the SC or you can drop it and go straight turbo. Either way it will set you back at least ~$3,500. There are more things you need to change in the MC while doing a turbo setup, so be aware of that....the engine needs to be improved like the pistons, etc. so that will add cost. I'm pretty sure you can run the ALTA Twurbo kit on a stock MCS, but of course it's advised you upgrade the engine parts as well, along with the ECU if you want to run more boost.

Like Rastven said, if you are wanting to go turbo, and like the styling....look for the new R56 (07') MCS.

I hope that helps a little.
-Cody
 

Last edited by polizei; Jun 5, 2007 at 10:44 AM.
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 10:45 AM
  #4  
dwjj's Avatar
dwjj
6th Gear
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,542
Likes: 0
From: Central Texas
The motor is different. The pistons and compression ratio are different. There are a lot of parts different between the turbo and non-turbo model (intercooler, intake, exhaust). Probably LOADS of other differences (things like gear ratio being different, front rotors, sway bars being different you could live with, but what if wiring harnesses, ECU, etc need changing too?)

While it may be theoretically possible, it would cost a LOT more than selling your current car and buying an MCS.
 
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 12:00 PM
  #5  
AliceCooperWA's Avatar
AliceCooperWA
5th Gear
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 664
Likes: 1
I don't think an MC auto tranny will stand up to a turbo...even a small one. It is a cvt. I wouldn't do it without a getrag manual tranny. You would be looking at well over 10k in total...is it worth it? I dunno...

You might need an S hood for the added clearance, you would have to get forged s pistons and rods, exhaust, clutch and flywheel, forged crankshaft, etc... then the turbo. I looked into it and decided that I would rather trade it in for an S and then go that route. It would be much cheaper that way.
 
Reply
Old Jun 5, 2007 | 12:06 PM
  #6  
dwjj's Avatar
dwjj
6th Gear
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,542
Likes: 0
From: Central Texas
If he has an R56-manual it's a 6sp Getrag-same as the MCS but different ratios. I'd be suprised if the R56 MC and MCS auto transmissions are different.
 
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2007 | 10:06 AM
  #7  
Ranzo's Avatar
Ranzo
4th Gear
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 372
Likes: 0
If you have the older 02-04 Cooper... Don't do it...
 
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2007 | 10:44 AM
  #8  
UKSUV's Avatar
UKSUV
6th Gear
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 3,673
Likes: 2
From: Marsala, Sicily
Originally Posted by Ranzo
If you have the older 02-04 Cooper... Don't do it...
Shut your mouth Ranzo.....Don't discourage me...
 
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2007 | 10:48 AM
  #9  
UKSUV's Avatar
UKSUV
6th Gear
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 3,673
Likes: 2
From: Marsala, Sicily
Okay...if you haven't bought a Mini yet...Go for a MCS. Either model will do fine (R53 or R56). And get a manual. CVT's in any way just suck. They are known for not holding the power. I have an 03 Cooper and had visions of a turbo like you. But, in reality, the road is long and rough. I decided to fully build a MCS motor and then turbo only it. Coupled to a 6-speed my costs are going to almost be another Mini in itself. Added to the $15K club I already belong to. Have fun with whatever you do...just heed our advice.
 
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2007 | 01:26 PM
  #10  
Ranzo's Avatar
Ranzo
4th Gear
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 372
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by UKSUV
Shut your mouth Ranzo.....Don't discourage me...
Don't do it unless your name is UKSUV

Hows the big project going? Haven't really been on too much lately.

Did you read the newish thread about the getrag 6 speed swap? Freakin' sweet!!! Damn that's what I should have done. Just my luck that thread started after a replace my gearbox.

MiniQuin:

It's just a lot easier if you start with a Cooper S. You start with forged internals and a stronger gearbox. If you decide to do that to your Cooper expect to fork out some pretty good coin.
 
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2007 | 01:28 PM
  #11  
Ranzo's Avatar
Ranzo
4th Gear
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 372
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by UKSUV
Coupled to a 6-speed my costs are going to almost be another Mini in itself. Added to the $15K club I already belong to.
Okay nevermind I guess you did.
 
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2007 | 02:13 PM
  #12  
hemiheaded18's Avatar
hemiheaded18
Banned
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,673
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by Ranzo
If you have the older 02-04 Cooper... Don't do it...
Yeah, the NA motor in the MC is 10.5:1 from the factory. Even with aluminum heads, big compression+boost=not good.
 
Reply
Old Jun 6, 2007 | 05:20 PM
  #13  
UKSUV's Avatar
UKSUV
6th Gear
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 3,673
Likes: 2
From: Marsala, Sicily
Originally Posted by hemiheaded18
Yeah, the NA motor in the MC is 10.5:1 from the factory. Even with aluminum heads, big compression+boost=not good.
That's why you lower the compression and boost at 32 psi like I am planning on with a MCS block It's gonna be a long road ahead for me and I dont wanna see anyone else do it.
 
Reply
Old Jun 7, 2007 | 01:34 PM
  #14  
hemiheaded18's Avatar
hemiheaded18
Banned
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,673
Likes: 2
Originally Posted by UKSUV
That's why you lower the compression and boost at 32 psi like I am planning on with a MCS block It's gonna be a long road ahead for me and I dont wanna see anyone else do it.
32 PSI!!!??? Thats a scary number. Thats getting into 1000 hp Supra numbers and diesel range there.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Ryephile
Suspension
113
Feb 9, 2020 03:43 PM
Sexual Chocolate
MINIs & Minis for Sale
6
Mar 31, 2019 08:02 PM
FrostyFox
MINIs & Minis for Sale
1
Oct 28, 2015 02:06 PM
caiken
JCW Garage
33
Aug 27, 2015 06:55 AM
Mini Mania
Vendor Announcements
0
Aug 11, 2015 09:01 AM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:05 PM.