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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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Wow....they even pulled the air tools excuse? I guess if you use all of your excuses at once.....the customer might be more willing to believe atleast one of them

PU....do you ever plan to respond to these concerns?
 
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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PU's excuses and business conduct sickens me.
i wish they'd just stop selling things.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 08:45 AM
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I see they posted a response today in the vendor section. What do you all think?
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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BS....
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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uber-entertainment©
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 03:14 PM
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Well its hilarious that they wont take the time to respond in here.

One issue i would like cleared up is this statement:

The issue of rust, in no way is there an issue of quality of the engineered lug.
Grammatically it doesnt make much sense....but the point they are trying to make doesnt make much sense either. The development of rust doesnt point to an issue of quality when it comes to their product? HUH?

And the rest of it is just funny...... aero-grade, formula one spec...blah blah. Lots of big words to divert peoples' eyes from their lack of quality.

So they "answered" the question about this issue......any word on the countless other PU issues such as the fake wheels, bad antennas, un-proven claims of performance?
 

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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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I just noticed that they ended with this.....

UNLIKE others, we dont buy and repackage.
huh.....about those wheels
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 03:48 PM
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Why don't we call them out to respond on a Q&A thread about their products?
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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Hahahaha...I know, I caught that one too. I think what bothers me most about those types of "announcements" are the constant "unlike those OTHER guys...unlike OTHER manufacturing processes".

I've always been turned off by the constant effort to "downgrade" the competition. (i.e. OTHER companies etc...)

When vendors add that type of "hype" in their announcements, it makes me think twice about buying from them.

Just my 2cents
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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I find that they didn't threaten to sue anyone, or badmouth anyone (other than the implication that machine tightening of the lugs is wrong) a great improvement in their style...... Now, as for the product......
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by minimarks
Why don't we call them out to respond on a Q&A thread about their products?
The fact that they often bring up current issues via vendor announcements is due to the fact that we are unable to post there......so to the public that only sees the announcement, everything is fine and dandy. If they posted in here, they would actually have to explain the rediculous things they are trying to say.

I've always been turned off by the constant effort to "downgrade" the competition. (i.e. OTHER companies etc...)
They have asked people before why people don't treat them with respect.......the answer is that nearly all of their advertisements are built on putting down the competition. Don't show respect to the competition or the customers? You won't see much respect when your products continually fail......
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by LynnEl
I find that they didn't threaten to sue anyone, or badmouth anyone (other than the implication that machine tightening of the lugs is wrong) a great improvement in their style...... Now, as for the product......

Besides badmouthing all of their competition....including their tuner lug competition Can't make your product look good on its own merits? Better start making fun of the competition instead
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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Competition? I thought they didn't have any.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RallyMINI
One issue i would like cleared up is this statement:
The issue of rust, in no way is there an issue of quality of the engineered lug.
Grammatically it doesnt make much sense....
That is an understatement. It is not even actually a sentence.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by mcs22004
Sadly, this might mean the end of the PUTL topic.
Not by a long shot! As others noted this thread has probably been the cause of this NAM vendor response:

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...d.php?t=115082
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by gnatster
So this latest post by the powers that be at P.U. gets my goat. Why?? I'll tell ya.

I know a person locally that had purchased these "tuner" lugs. <<<>>>>This person was also accused of using air tools.
I was also immediately accused of using air tools. You know the long sordid story that came after from this thread. While they tried to sweet talk me into taking a shot at the latest version of PU lugs that are in transit, I simply said I want a refund and one is supposed to be in process. The air tools excuse is apparently a knee-jerk response and that as much as anything is a problem.
 

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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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Just a thought....If their lugs are sooooo Uber-strong, why would they fail with an air tool?
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by minimarks
Just a thought....If their lugs are sooooo Uber-strong, why would they fail with an air tool?

hahah especially if they meet the formula one specifications......imagine pit stops with regular hand tools 15 minutes later and he's ready to pull out from the pit stop vroooooom.

We manufacture our tuner lugs at a grade 10.9 and advertise grade 10.3, which is the required grade for formula one track standards.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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We manufacture our tuner lugs at a grade 10.9 and advertise grade 10.3, which is the required grade for formula one track standards.
Why would anyone not advertise a product to take full advantage of the specs. PU really does live up to their initials. Their BS does stink.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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Come to think of it.... When was the last year that F1 used Lugs?
 
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 04:59 AM
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How can they be Formula 1 spec, if formula 1 cars don't even use lug bolts?
 
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Aeromax
How can they be Formula 1 spec, if formula 1 cars don't even use lug bolts?
Maybe they meant the actual TRACK standards......cause I'm seeing nothing about it in the tech regulations for F1

http://www.fia.com/resources/documen...EGULATIONS.pdf
 
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by RallyMINI
Maybe they meant the actual TRACK standards......cause I'm seeing nothing about it in the tech regulations for F1

http://www.fia.com/resources/documen...EGULATIONS.pdf
Could they be refuring to the pace car and, or tow trucks? PS: Maybe you could e-mail them that document for their review....
 
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 05:39 AM
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Formula one rusty lug nut check...

 
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 05:45 AM
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F1 cars are designed to last exactly long enough to qualify and then finish the race between full strip down an re-build.

About 220 miles

So, maybe they are desgned to F1 standards - they will last 200 miles before they fail ?
 
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