How To OEM Navigation Retrofit

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Old Jan 9, 2012 | 04:54 PM
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OEM Navigation Retrofit

This started out as a Navigation/GPS retrofit work log, but has now turned into a 'how-to' log. I've tried to remove any unknown/untested theories from it but due to the nature of it being a prior work log, I may have overlooked something.


Prerequisites:

Please don't ask general questions about coding/programming unless you have a specific question. It's a topic well outside the scope of this thread. (see the electrical forum for NCS_Expert and the site below bmwcoding under beginners lounge for some very well sorted out tutorials.)

1. Understand how to change your VO in NCS Expert. You will want to code your FRM, CAS to $609-navigation and $6UH-RTTI) After you update, power cycle and you'll see CAPPL, CHOST, CTUNE, and CID. You'll want to remove your old radio code also. ($6FC was mine)
2. Have a decent set of tools and knowledge to know how to use them.
3. Installed Adobe SVG viewer and Internet Explorer 7.0+
4. Ability to read between the lines if I'm not clear.
5. soldering iron and heat shrink
6. Multimeter.
7. Read the entire thread. It may not be organized how you would organize it. All essential bits are here.

Radio/dash disassembly: (These videos are not mine: see credits on the original author on youtube)

P1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc0NZXTJDFk
P2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNPtvYA4Q7k


Essential websites:

http://realoem.com
http://www.bmw-planet.com/diagrams/r.../r56/index.htm
http://wds.spaghetticoder.org/us/
http://bmwcoding.com
www.car-part.com (for used parts needs)
The entire photo gallery of this post,several extra photos here:
http://bedellracing.smugmug.com/Other/MiniCooperNavigation/20539129_8zmB6j#!i=1626887991&k=35nZxx8


Big thank you to Joey(Strobeyprobey and Alex for his answering my pesky mini-cooper questions as well as his time spent researching diagrams and WDS site.

A very big Thank you to Wade at Mini of Dallas for all his time helping me chase obscure giblets to make all the 'big' parts work. http://www.miniofdallas.com/

My car: 10/2008 (09 MY) R55 factory JCW.

Donor car: 12/2008 (09MY) R55 S

Parts acquired:
DVD/Radio/CCC unit.
Nav Screen
Navigation Speedometer
Mini Joystick and 4 pin pigtail (I've lost the invoice where I purchased the bits) Pin/terminals are: 61138364848
Trim panel for Mini Joystick (console trim:51162756157 http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?...88&hg=51&fg=35
Trim panel for around the radio/ac assembly. (PN: 51169151326 http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?...90&hg=51&fg=30 )
Connector for back of Navigation screen. (If you can find one, it's the same 12 pin connector as you find on the heater control) 12 pin only pins 1-6 are used. I used part number: 61138384550 Note: it does not have the protective case.
Pins for above connector are 4x 61131393704, 2x 61138366260
Two connectors for Radio: PN 61-13-8-364-848 this is for your Radio and F45 in the panel.
Navigation antenna: PN: 65-20-3-456-090 *must have blue connector* **Note, Convertible antenna is about $70.00 and likely will work if you don't have to have it on the roof. **
new Antenna cable for GPS: 61126970911






Things confirmed that work 'plug and play'
1. Speedometer for navigation. (plus in and works with all related lights) If you are doing a car-computer, you can simply plug the Navigation speedometer into your 'old' speedometer output and expect it to fully function.
2. Radio/CD player, steering wheel controls. (though you have NO display and are stuck with the factory pre-sets on the radio) If you simply plug the CCC into your stock radio wiring, it will 'work' however, you should rewire your power feed to F45 instead of F21, otherwise, you will power cycle your CCC every time. (Which is incorrect) I used F21 to the Mini controller and tapped my CAN_L & CAN_H and ground wires off the back of the radio for the mini joystick. This allowed a nice and simple 12-15" jumper connector without any crazy wiring.

3. Powering/getting it to work. It simply 'worked' when I powered it up. I really suspect very little coding needs to be done, unless you're really picky about making everything work.


Navigation screen.
This is the Video wire for the navigation. Connects directly to the CCC.* :10 pin rectangle connector on the side of the navigation screen. I it's an short ~8-12" wire black in color with silver/metal connector and shielded as the pigtail that I have off the radio is shielded. Cost was about $40.00 from Mini.




I can't clearly identify what connector this is as the connector photo links on the WDS site are dead.
12 pin rectangle connector on the back of the navigation screen Shown at 6:00 in this photo:
*edit* 12 pin seems to only have 4 wires to it. power, ground, Can Bus high, can bus low**
Caveat: Wiring diagram only references 6 pins, not 12. When in doubt, the board traces are labeled.

I'm not sure if the connector at 12:00 on this (small 6 pin) is used. Per the WDS and diagrams I can find, it's not used. Can anyone confirm? It operates without this connector, most likely another country function or a programming/diagnostic connector.




There's a 4 pin flat connector that runs to the center joy-stick behind the shifter and back up to the speedo/dvd area.

Fuse F21, Can Bus high & low, Ground to X13016, which is the same as the factory Radio. Meaning, simply splice into the wires in the back of the radio and you'll be golden.

On the CCC pin 15, is routed to F45, which is constant power. Joystick and Screen is F21, which is switched.









Identified:
Fan wires, they cut these. However the fan wires should simply loop back to the radio. (seen on the bottom left)

Note: MOST is identical to your stock radio. You don't have to mess with the fiber optics.







Antenna differences:

Left is my stock one, right is a GPS antenna:






If you want to diagnose things, you access the diagnostic screen from here:
Correct, the menu is from the WDS.

To get into it, go to the start menu, highlight 'setup'

Hold the joystick down for 15 seconds
turn 3 clicks right
turn 3 clicks left
turn 1 click right
turn 1 click left
turn 1 click right
Press joystick down and you'll see an "OSD" menu, click the display again.

Once there, navigate up and down with twisting the controller and pressing it. *some* menus have multiple screens, you access them by moving the joystick right and highlighting 'next'.



In closing, this was/is a pretty straight forward upgrade. I have countless hours troubleshooting and confirming fitment. If I were to do it again, 3-5 hours would get the system going.


Other misc threads I created for tasks as I worked through the process:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...r-for-nav.html
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...lp-needed.html
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-to-guide.html


 

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Old Oct 20, 2021 | 10:54 AM
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Hi how did you wire in the screen as i cant seem to get mine to power on lol with power and ground
 
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