Exspensive Repair Work - Oil Changes too
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Exspensive Repair Work - Oil Changes too
I've been reading post and notice that many complain that after the warranty, repair work becomes expensive. Is this still ongoing with the 2018-2019 models after the warranty has ended? Are mini's having that much trouble and ongoing issues?
Good example I drive a 911s and to get an oil change from Porsche cost me right at $500 big ones. Yeah you read that right $500! I can do it myself for $50 but it will void my warranty.
Good example I drive a 911s and to get an oil change from Porsche cost me right at $500 big ones. Yeah you read that right $500! I can do it myself for $50 but it will void my warranty.
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That's somewhat of a subjective question. In my opinion, yes.
Also, $500 or I void my warranty changing my own oil. No thanks.
Also, $500 or I void my warranty changing my own oil. No thanks.
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Oil changes at my local MINI dealer are $65 or so, but I often see 25% off coupons on their website.
If you don't opt for an extended warranty (can be purchased right up to the days before the factory coverage ends), it might be better to find a reputable indie shop that works on MINIs or BMWs. I found that the labor rate at my dealer isn't that far outta line, what gets you is paying for OE/OEM parts.
With MINI, it seems that the first year or two after a full refresh can be troublesome, but as the generation ages, it becomes more reliable. The current F56s were introduced in 2015, so I hope/think that by now MINI has had the chance to work out most of the common issues. I just got my JCW in July, so we'll see! : fingers crossed :
If you don't opt for an extended warranty (can be purchased right up to the days before the factory coverage ends), it might be better to find a reputable indie shop that works on MINIs or BMWs. I found that the labor rate at my dealer isn't that far outta line, what gets you is paying for OE/OEM parts.
With MINI, it seems that the first year or two after a full refresh can be troublesome, but as the generation ages, it becomes more reliable. The current F56s were introduced in 2015, so I hope/think that by now MINI has had the chance to work out most of the common issues. I just got my JCW in July, so we'll see! : fingers crossed :
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$500 oil change? Does that include a night at the 4 Seasons Hotel and dinner? I don't see how any manufacturer can claim that a DIY oil change will void the warranty (assuming you keep receipts to show you used the appropriate oil and filter.) That's just extortion.
Yes service work gets expensive, at least here in the SF Bay area. The Acura dealer charges $180/hour. I forget what the MINI dealer charges, I haven't been there since the maintenance plan and warranty expired. That's why we have NAM and all the posts from our members to help us figure out how to do as much as we can by ourselves.
Yes service work gets expensive, at least here in the SF Bay area. The Acura dealer charges $180/hour. I forget what the MINI dealer charges, I haven't been there since the maintenance plan and warranty expired. That's why we have NAM and all the posts from our members to help us figure out how to do as much as we can by ourselves.
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I'm certain that the mini expenses will be cheaper of that of the Porsche specially when it comes to oil changes of $500 per oil change and repairs too. I'll opt for an extended warranty from the start so I can just toss it into the bank financing. So, I'm not up on everything with mini... if mine is a 2019 2dr JCW it is also called a F56?
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It should come with a 4 season room and dinner. 
With Porsche if you don't get the oil change from them then there is no dealer stamp in the book showing the oil change. And with a Porsche depending on which type of Porsche, could mean that you could lose tens of thousands when selling. Trust me I think it's nuts to pay $500 for an oil change. I only drive my 911s maybe 100-120 miles a month, so thankfully for me it's just once a year. My 930 Slope which I sold back in the 90's is now worth $400,000-$500,000 BIG ones if you have all the records of work performed from the dealer including oil changes. So with that said you see why I get all the work done at the dealership. Sucks but..
I love Porsche however... after driving the mini I have found a new love. and more fun!
With Porsche if you don't get the oil change from them then there is no dealer stamp in the book showing the oil change. And with a Porsche depending on which type of Porsche, could mean that you could lose tens of thousands when selling. Trust me I think it's nuts to pay $500 for an oil change. I only drive my 911s maybe 100-120 miles a month, so thankfully for me it's just once a year. My 930 Slope which I sold back in the 90's is now worth $400,000-$500,000 BIG ones if you have all the records of work performed from the dealer including oil changes. So with that said you see why I get all the work done at the dealership. Sucks but..
I love Porsche however... after driving the mini I have found a new love. and more fun!
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Called a local dealer here in town and was told $150 - $160 for an oil change on my 15 MCS. Double that being that her 16 MCS needs one as well.
Deer God - talk about highway robbery. Not sure if he was just sky high in price or just didnt want to do it?
Deer God - talk about highway robbery. Not sure if he was just sky high in price or just didnt want to do it?
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My Mini is out of warranty and I found that it’s really the hourly labor costs that get you with repairs on these. A turbo replacement was going to cost as much or more in labor as the overpriced turbo. They said 10 hours labor. $2000 for the turbo for a grand total of $5500! So instead I studied posts here on the site and some other diy’s, bought a bigger turbo, catless DP, an ECU tune, and some other upgrade goodies, did the work myself and came out just around the cost of the stock turbo at the dealership! Got more for the money and saved over 2 grand in the process! They are really not that bad to work on yourself as long as you are patient. It’s a bit tight in some spots, there is a reason the labor cost is high, it takes some time to do, but worth it to learn to do most things yourself.
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Funny talking about service as I'm sitting at the dealer waiting for my wife's 2018 s to be serviced while still under warranty.
I split the oil service interval and do it myself which is very easy.Easier than the 2012 s we use to have because of the new filter location.
I split the oil service interval and do it myself which is very easy.Easier than the 2012 s we use to have because of the new filter location.
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Statistics from Mini service centers indicate that the newest generation of Cooper (F56) is proving more reliable than the last: http://www.motoringfile.com/2018/02/...ts-struggling/
Like any car built with new technologies its important to be proactive or punctual with regular servicing. The suggested oil change interval for the F56 is way too long, so those who are wise will half the suggested interval and do double the suggested oil changes. Other obvious things like not abusing the car are also important. If you’re going to do track days be even nore vigilant with your maintenance as that will really put a lot of stress on all the engine and transmission parts. It seems the F56 is pretty reliable, but its still a BMW product which means that the parts and technologies typically aren’t all proven out over super long timelines like Toyota. BMW tends to push newer technologies forward sooner, which can mean they run into some unintended reliability issues down the road.
I had a mid ccle oil change done at my old dealer in Alberta and the orice was reasonable. Under $100 Canadian I believe. When I bought my previous car in 2015 Mini was offering free oil changes for 3 years (which heinously enough is only 3 oil changes according to their schedule, so not much of a deal at all).
Another point to keep in mind: The first gen (R50/R53) mini engines were designed and built by Chrysler, the second gen engines were built by Peugeot (R56) and the third gen engines (F56) are built by BMW. The new “B Series” BMW engines are a modular architecture that allows BMW to share lots of parts between engines. You can find the B series engines in Mini’s, 1 series, 3 series and other cars too.
Like any car built with new technologies its important to be proactive or punctual with regular servicing. The suggested oil change interval for the F56 is way too long, so those who are wise will half the suggested interval and do double the suggested oil changes. Other obvious things like not abusing the car are also important. If you’re going to do track days be even nore vigilant with your maintenance as that will really put a lot of stress on all the engine and transmission parts. It seems the F56 is pretty reliable, but its still a BMW product which means that the parts and technologies typically aren’t all proven out over super long timelines like Toyota. BMW tends to push newer technologies forward sooner, which can mean they run into some unintended reliability issues down the road.
I had a mid ccle oil change done at my old dealer in Alberta and the orice was reasonable. Under $100 Canadian I believe. When I bought my previous car in 2015 Mini was offering free oil changes for 3 years (which heinously enough is only 3 oil changes according to their schedule, so not much of a deal at all).
Another point to keep in mind: The first gen (R50/R53) mini engines were designed and built by Chrysler, the second gen engines were built by Peugeot (R56) and the third gen engines (F56) are built by BMW. The new “B Series” BMW engines are a modular architecture that allows BMW to share lots of parts between engines. You can find the B series engines in Mini’s, 1 series, 3 series and other cars too.
Its not a MINI engine man, its basically a race motor with sump set up, not done right will oil starve/too much oil at start up after changing it. Too much will damage the engine and cat. Most take about 9-10 qts, and more often then not there is residual left in the engine up to 2 qts.
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Just bought a 2004 R50 For my Son. Changed the Oil the other day and ti cost me about 25 bucks with Mobile One. I have changed rear Wiper arm, Both HIDs, both High beams, Front Parking lamp, rear brake light, Cabin filter, Engine filter, front wiper blades. All that and I still don't have more than 75 Buck in all of it. I would never step foot in a dealer unless absolutely unavoidable. I love this little car, it is a blast to drive.
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