Surprised that MINI's DEAD LAST in Quality?
#1
#5
#6
I've had my chain tensioner, HPFP, and water pump changed. When someone tells me they would like to have one its a shame that I have to warn them about the car and the risk one would have to take not knowing if they will get a bad one or not, brand new or used. I'm talking about the R56 of course. Its a shame. BMW should be ashamed.
On that note...I still love my car and now just starting to enjoy it! I would get another one too!
On that note...I still love my car and now just starting to enjoy it! I would get another one too!
#7
5th Gear
iTrader: (4)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Asheville, NC
Posts: 800
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Trending Topics
#9
Wish I would've read the article 3 years ago
58,000 highway miles and bad timing chain, new cam, and the call last night that the Turbo is gone. $3500 repair in a 3 year old car and we might not be finished yet. As I told the tech, I thought I was buying a Mini, not some crap car. Am having the dealer buy it off me. Bad car, bad company, two bad dealer service centers...
#10
Enthusiast car? There are 6 parked on my street alone, not including mine. Seriously, they're a dime a dozen in LA. I see at least two of the electric-only versions a day driving around the city.
#12
#13
If you're talking about this:
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,5513154.story
that's a very crappy piece of journalism, it tells you absolutely nothing. JD Powers uses very questionable methodology for their Initial Quality Survey, which I assume is what the article is referencing. For instance, cars can get dinged for having controls that owners find hard to use. Considering how unique Minis are (took me months to get used to the radio), they get hit pretty hard for this, but it's hardly a reflection of their quality.
Here's a pretty good take down of JDP:
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/200...jd-powers-iqs/
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,5513154.story
that's a very crappy piece of journalism, it tells you absolutely nothing. JD Powers uses very questionable methodology for their Initial Quality Survey, which I assume is what the article is referencing. For instance, cars can get dinged for having controls that owners find hard to use. Considering how unique Minis are (took me months to get used to the radio), they get hit pretty hard for this, but it's hardly a reflection of their quality.
Here's a pretty good take down of JDP:
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/200...jd-powers-iqs/
#14
Maybe Michael Karesh's 2006 "take down" of the JDP IQS didn't take. While it's true that the IQS mixes owner annoyances with reliability data, it's an Initial Quality Survey rather than a First Ninety-Day Reliability Survey. Thus, it counts all owner complaints; even those about crummy cup holders.
Michael Karesh has his own online vehicle reliability and pricing website (www.truedelta.com), but I haven't seen his debunking of Consumers Reports yet.
Michael Karesh has his own online vehicle reliability and pricing website (www.truedelta.com), but I haven't seen his debunking of Consumers Reports yet.
#15
Thanks for a bunch of interesting responses.
I still own an '04 MCS, which has about 101K miles on it. I think once I get rid of the stupidly designed OE flywheel I'll be much happier. The car has been one thing after another for a long time now, but most of the fixes have added up to improvements. I am planning a Valeo clutch and plain old single mass flywheel to replace the OEM clutch and "Dual Mass" FW. What were they thinking? I still love driving my MCS, and plan to do so until it cannot move another inch, or I just get completely fed up, whichever comes first.
I still own an '04 MCS, which has about 101K miles on it. I think once I get rid of the stupidly designed OE flywheel I'll be much happier. The car has been one thing after another for a long time now, but most of the fixes have added up to improvements. I am planning a Valeo clutch and plain old single mass flywheel to replace the OEM clutch and "Dual Mass" FW. What were they thinking? I still love driving my MCS, and plan to do so until it cannot move another inch, or I just get completely fed up, whichever comes first.
#16
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post