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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 11:29 AM
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This is a left over 2009 Mini Cooper S. I am not sure how many miles the car has on it. The price was $35,450 but they are taking $4,000 off. Obviously someone ordered this car and they got stuck with it. Do you think there is anymore wiggle room to get the price lower? Or possible get them to change somethings on the car like the chrome mirror caps and white rims? Thanks guys!!
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 07:20 PM
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4 grand off is a so-so deal, it is an 09 and has already depreciated that much. So I'd be asking for more....it never hurts to ask. Let them know you are ready to buy, but you have a set budget (try for 6 grand off), the worst that will happen is they say no. If you are not afraid of losing the car to someone else, then after you make your new offer, give it a couple days.....with any luck, they will call you in that time. If they don't, and you really want it, go back in and take the deal they are offering.

That's how I would approach it on a leftover model (and if your offer is fair, they will usually take it or at least come down some more). Again, the draw back to waiting those couple of days, is that the car could sell. I sold a lot of Harley's, sometimes I made a little more, sometimes a little less....but I always understood why a customer was trying to beat me down more on price.

As for changing things on the car: some will be easy, they aren't going to lose a deal over mirror caps. On the other hand, wheels are expensive even for the dealer to buy, so that may be a tougher sell. But again, the worst that they will say is no.
 

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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 10:16 PM
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If you really want a cooper with ALL those options, then it's a deal, otherwise it's not. If you were to find one with a couple of options and with $4K then it would be a nicer deal. I think you can safely ask for more off and change the mirror caps, but not the wheels.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 12:49 AM
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Way too much money, not even a JCW, at least 6000 off, or no deal. A lot of glitz stuff, no go stuff.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BensMini
Way too much money, not even a JCW, at least 6000 off, or no deal. A lot of glitz stuff, no go stuff.
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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 04:56 AM
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In my experience the key to any deal is understanding that the one who is willing to walk away holds the power...

Tell them that you like their car, that you are serious, and that you will pay no more than $X. Perhaps make the point that you already have a nice MINI and really don't 'need' a new one. If they hesitate, walk. You probably won't make it off the lot. Of course, if you do, then it wasn't meant to be. No problem either way.

Like kemo said, the worst thing that happens is they say, "no."
 
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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 09:16 AM
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Thanks for your advice so far everyone! So I found another 09 with all the packages plus a few other add ons. I asked the dealer for a detailed invoice and realized both of these cars are executive demos. So knowing that I read up on what exactly that was and whether it is good. A lot of signs are pointing to a big no about buying an executive demo. I dont know if anyone out there has had an experience with them but I would love to hear.

Like HKRYMINI said I know I kind of hold the cards in my hand about buying the car since I have a nice Mini already. I just wish I would have ordered my car 2 1/2 years ago instead of walking on the lot and falling in love with my little Dory. I realize now I would have liked more on my car but maybe not as much as this car I am looking at has.

Thanks everyone for the advice!! Have a nice rest of the weekend!
 
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Old Apr 11, 2010 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Dory the Cooper
Thanks for your advice so far everyone! So I found another 09 with all the packages plus a few other add ons. I asked the dealer for a detailed invoice and realized both of these cars are executive demos. So knowing that I read up on what exactly that was and whether it is good. A lot of signs are pointing to a big no about buying an executive demo. I dont know if anyone out there has had an experience with them but I would love to hear.

Like HKRYMINI said I know I kind of hold the cards in my hand about buying the car since I have a nice Mini already. I just wish I would have ordered my car 2 1/2 years ago instead of walking on the lot and falling in love with my little Dory. I realize now I would have liked more on my car but maybe not as much as this car I am looking at has.

Thanks everyone for the advice!! Have a nice rest of the weekend!
You sound like you have decided to skip these cars and that's the right decession, with the small discount they are offering. I just wanted to mention, that about 8 yrs ago I bought an executive demo from my local Chrysler dealer and it was a great deal. The car had very few miles on it, no damage and it still had its warranty. I was very happy with the condition of the car and it worked trouble free for the 4 yrs I had it. Plus the discount was over $10,000. I saved on all the depreciation (and then some) I would have been hit with, if I had bought it new.

I am only pointing this out, because "if" they were willing to come down 8 to 10 grand on one of these Mini's (which they should, where they are a yr old and demos), you'd be getting a great deal. Just something to think about.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2010 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by kemo
You sound like you have decided to skip these cars and that's the right decession, with the small discount they are offering. I just wanted to mention, that about 8 yrs ago I bought an executive demo from my local Chrysler dealer and it was a great deal. The car had very few miles on it, no damage and it still had its warranty. I was very happy with the condition of the car and it worked trouble free for the 4 yrs I had it. Plus the discount was over $10,000. I saved on all the depreciation (and then some) I would have been hit with, if I had bought it new.

I am only pointing this out, because "if" they were willing to come down 8 to 10 grand on one of these Mini's (which they should, where they are a yr old and demos), you'd be getting a great deal. Just something to think about.
I will keep that in mind. The dealer ship with this car has not send me a detailed invoice yet so I am still officially waiting to see if it really is a demo.

I would be the one buying the car but my parents think it is a bad idea since I already have a nice Mini Cooper. And I have to agree with them but the one regret with my car I wish I had not fallen in love with it on the lot and ordered it instead. This car and the other car I have been looking at have anything and beyond what I would like. So unless the dealership can give me a kick *** deal then NO DEAL!!
 
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Old Apr 11, 2010 | 04:29 PM
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You leave the three biggest questions you should have unanswered.

1] What is the mileage on the car? The difference between 500 and 5,000 is significant.

2] When did the warranty start and what will be your warranty as the buyer?

3] What is the definition of an "Executive Demo"?

If the definition of an "Executive Demo" is a loaner car given to folks in service, the warranty started a year ago, and the car has 5,000 miles on it... not a good deal. If the car has significant miles and has been titled, what is the difference between it and any other used car? You can find dozens of Minis with less than 10,000 miles used for $10-12,000 off original MSRP.

People tend to be very naive about demos. In most cases they are little else than high priced used cars.
 
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