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Old 08-12-2015, 08:17 AM
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Edit done 8/14. Hello all, long term BMW owner here. I have wanted a Mini pretty much from the beginning. My wife doesn't care for style or maybe that the car is a "lifestyle" rather than a means for transportation(wallflower so I understand). But I finally had an excuse to buy one because of my daughter needing a vehicle. Searched forever for a "good" deal. Being in the Salvage business I have been keeping my eye open for a theft recovery or simple accident.
I tried to avoid the flood cars because of the inherent gremlins that can be amplified by corrosion. Well... as my life goes, I bought a flood car. But... But.. it was fresh water! But.. it doesn't look wet? But.. it smells new and has 8,000 miles! But.. its optioned exactly how I would order it and what other car could pull off Brown! But.. it starts and runs (oh boy, this changes later) Tons of "Buts" to justify my hand raising on its own during bidding! Everyone will ask so I will say, I paid $9600, add fees and repairs and I am at $11,700 as it SITS in my driveway. It sits with a battery maintainer as I search for a good tech that travels.

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Second post, if its a little confusing I am also responding to some other members comments: After hours of interior removal and searches for any potential issue I have found 4 wires on the lower 2 plugs on the BCM. When disconnecting those plugs to examine the wiring 4 pins came out with the plugs. Rather than replace the pins I just soldered a jumper wire off the back and routed it around to the correct wire in the plug.Everything was great. During the down time I thought it would be a good time to have the PDR work done.
The tech came and moved the car into a well lit bay and began to do 4 hours of dent removal. The next morning is when my nightmare began. They got in the car to drive it on the tow truck and.... no start. 30 attempts later...no start. everything was checked, fuses, relays (ehh?) battery was low and recharged. Battery was removed to allow DME reset..nope. Key operates as normal, lights and accessories 100%.
Everything but the engine will not fire. crank yes. Smell gas, yes. Spark, no. checked the BC1 and it looks the same as when i did the work. I am absolutely stumped..

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Old 08-12-2015, 08:24 AM
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My Mini is a 2013 S, AT with 8831 miles. I have since stripped the interior to the sheet metal and have unplugged every plug in the entire interior, having found only 2 plugs (both are the 2 lowest plugs on the BCM and also the closest to the cellulose material sprayed on the back of our carpets, see attached. The interior was bone dry behind every panel with exception to the passenger footwell. For good measure I used 2 humidity indicators that we use at work (uline) they did not even register. And our portable desiccant dehumidifier was also installed as best possible and ran for 2 cycles, both timed out because nothing above the relative air humidity was detected. Regarding the exterior, it can get as wet as possible with no ill effects for obvious reasons. Also attached is the pic of the car, the BC1 board and solder job. You can see what I was attempting. The crazy thing is this all worked. Not until after the PDR work did it have a no start issue. I checked the panels and all appear to be installed correctly, besides what could the tools from PDR repair possibly do to cause a no start issue? The remote key works correctly, the radio, windows, odometer, locks, lights and every button that operates a device works 100%, just won't start. Cranks like a madman, no spark. You can smell the fuel. The battery is registering 14.1 volts at this moment. No spark. I really like this car, and want to drive it! For the 100 miles or so before I decided to nose around it drove like a new car, very fun. Any advice or insight on how the BCM could cause a no spark issue ONLY?
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OK,
I tried. I really did. But when I saw your second post was like the first I just gave up. It's too difficult to read with no paragraph separation.
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Old 08-14-2015, 08:28 AM
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OK,
I tried. I really did. But when I saw your second post was like the first I just gave up. It's too difficult to read with no paragraph separation.
I know, I am no writer. I think I am going to edit all the b.s. out. I can't even proof read it. I have so much to say and no patience. Thanks for trying!
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Did you ever get this resolved?
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I don't have it in front of me now, but I'm pretty sure the Bentley manual indicates 14.1V is too low. When battery voltage is too low, the ECU will not let the car start.

Would be nice to know for sure what fixed it.

Edit 3:30PM: I'm way off base --- 12.1V, at the battery, is the low limit I was thinking of. 14.1V is probably being read from the OBD connector, but that's still way to low for an OBD battery voltage reading with engine off.

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Could be "anti tampering protection" kicked in. Cranks but no fuel or spark. That code doesn't appear on all scan tools. I was able to use a snap-on tool scanner to reset starter count. Hope that helps. My $2500 project 2007 MCS is up to $6300 all in.
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Just noticed I'm about a year late.
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My fault I resureced this old thread because I asked if it had ever gotten resolved. I hate it when people posts these problems and a lot of effort goes into resolving it but then there is no follow up. Did the OP get his answer and never come back?
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Hopefully they will post back, electricals and fixing water drenched MINIs can be a huge job as water can be a killer to all the electrical.
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Getrieben hasn't posted since last August so more that likely he has moved on. Like many of these posts, we are left without a final verdict. It's a shame but this is what happens more often that not.
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i have purchased close to three flooded minis. all of them were a success story. the last one i bought was 2013 base with automatic tranny with less than 3k miles one it. I got the car to start after replacing the fuse box . i have almost all of the lights on the dash lit. so i took it one at a time. I also used WinKfp and NCExpert to code and program the car. My only issue is the mechanics of the transmission. I need to clean it out for the third time or just replace it.
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