Not only do I remember the 12, but Renault ran a 10 while Tyrrell was using a Cosworth 8 all in the same season.

 

Oh heck yeah! From flat 12s to turbo 4s and everything in between. Days of innovation that you could actually hear. Personally, I think the 10 cylinders sound flatulent.

 

Was there a common thread then between them--- say horsepower, displacement or nothing except 4 wheels?----I don't remember exactly what , but know you could tell each make by the sound it made. That is somewhat apparent now, but not nearly so much.

Just set my dvr this morning for this weekend as I will be off to a MINI event. It sure is nice to have Inside Gran Prix, practice, qualifying, AND the race waiting for me on Sunday night when I get home to watch when I have time. The only thing is that I need to stay away from here until I've viewed it. Personally having the dvr has made this season.

 

If I remember, dicplacement was used as an equalizer. However, the inclusion of turbos made for some interesting rule-making against the backdrop of normally aspirated engines...in a way only F-1 could manage. I'm old...I could be wrong.

 

I for one will not mourn the loss of the V-10 in F1. Perhaps this is because when I attended my first F1 race, Ferrari still had V-12 power. That, my friends, was one sweet wail.

The V-10 in comparison was audio torture. After the V-12, I like the sound of a Cosworth DFV V-8 best, so maybe the new formula will be able to recapture some of those great exhaust pipe aurias.

Yep, this week-end is significant. It's the last opportunity for Renault (the V-10's spiritual Godfather) to win the Constructor's title, thus ending it's era on a high note.

 

...and even better than the V-12 was the flat-12 that I first heard in 1974...Ferrari ran a flat-12 and BRM ran a V-12 that sounded so much sweeter compared to the V-8 Cosworth Fords that everyone else had.

My intro to the modern V-10 came in Montreal at a Group C sports car race in 1990...amongst the Sauber Mercedes, Jaguars, Nissans, and Porsche 962s was one lone Peugeot 905 using that race as a test and debut...you knew when that car was on track from anywhere around the circuit...compared to all the turbos in that race, it truly screamed!

 

Here's run-down of engine rules since 1988, from f1db.com

1988: 1.5L V6 turbos in the frontrunners, plus some 3.0L and 3.5L Ford/Cosworth V8s

1989: No more turbos. All engines were 3.5L (Ferrari and Lambo had V12s, Honda and Renault had V10, everyone else ran a V8)

1995: Engines go down 3.0L (Ferrari still had a V12, Ford/Cosworth had V8s, everyone else had a V10)

1998: Everyone has a 3.0L V10

2006: Everyone goes to a V8

 

I miss the glory days of prototype racing!

 

AMEN!

there is nothing prototype in the Daytona Prototypes. IMHO they should be called "Daytona spec racers" or isnt that the name for Nextell cup cars?

 

1990 was nearing the death of the Group C cars. Weren't the Jaguars running Cosworth F1 engines at that point?

 

I watched a few DP races this year, and there is much too much bumping/griding/overly-aggressive driving ala NASCAR. The cars are also very ugly, not very high-tech and very spec. ALMS on the other hand is really exciting! I can't wait to see the new Porsche RS Spyder this weekend!

 

In 1990, they ran the V12 at Le Mans and the V6 twin turbo in Montreal in September.

 

Loved the Spats. VERY classy!

 

The race starts in less than 15 min. Anyone up for it?

 

I am here. Though my little blue friend did not work earlier tonight Mark Martin should have his sponsor removed.

 

I'm here too. Well at least long enough to catch the start and get the vcr hooked up. Albers-Schumi, what were they thinking?

 

I missed what happened? I only know they start from the pit lane? I watched the qualifying last night, I also had the race on tonight before it started, when did this happen, how and when?

 

Who is Mark Martin?

 

Albers and Schumi collided when taking their position on the grid, looks like Schumi slowed and Albers didn't see him.

p.s. M. Martin is sponsored by Pfizer's "V"-Power, for men "of a certain age" in NASCAR, Viagra in the parlance of the times.

 

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JPM hits track drain, changes tire, comes back in for fuel (can't refuel and change tire on same stop) retires with suspension dammage




Constructors Title to RENAULT
All over but the spraying of the champaign and the last Glorious scream of the 3.0 L V-10

 

Did I hear them say possible lifting of the one tire rule next year????

PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE!

 

I'm still in the dark here... Who is Mark Martin?

 

What a Season! Congrats to Fernando and Renault.

Silly season starts NOW!

Catch everyone in the 2006 thread!

 

Well wasn’t this an interesting season…

As I’ve said before, the pendulum will only swing one way so far… Ferrari is not dead!!! They pick the drivers and the car drives them to victory. Ferrari is not dead. Another prediction from me, a very easy one BTW.

Peter Windsor’s comment about Jenson Button, I think was… let’s say I had a lot more respect for the guy until his comment about Jenson.

I have been talking about this kid for what now… 3 years I’ve been saying he’s getting no respect!!! AND now he’s still getting none. WHO THE EFF IS SATO!!! And why does he rank in press above Button?

Next year, HE, Jenson Button will be the highest paid driver in F1. Someone other than ME must see he has the mark of a champion. Only the car and the circumstance will be the factor, but that’s racing. He is a champion driver!!!



Does anyone other than me see this???

 

just finished watching the race. you have got to love tivo. my first year as an F1 fan and i think it was great. i can't wait to watch kimi and alonso duke it out again.

and, oh yeah, dr. diff, keep your issues in the appropriate thread. sheeesh.