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Old May 27, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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Quaife on 09 JCW

Has anyone put a Quaife on an 09 JCW? How do you turn off the ELSD?

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Old May 27, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Wizeguy9999
Has anyone put a Quaife on an 09 JCW? How do you turn off the ELSD?

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It's always off unless you turn it on by hold the DSC button for several seconds.
 
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Old May 28, 2009 | 05:18 AM
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So is it off when it says DTC or is it off when it has the triangle with a circle around it?

When I auto-cross I usually turn it to the triangle with circle, because I don't want the traction control messing around with me.
 
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Old May 28, 2009 | 09:51 AM
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It's off when you have the circle. DTC means it is on (and all other traction control is off)
 
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Old May 28, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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Very interesting. So theoretically you could put a real LSD in, and just run it on the last setting and be fine.
 
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Old May 28, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Wizeguy9999
Very interesting. So theoretically you could put a real LSD in, and just run it on the last setting and be fine.
The ELSD is not needed in the other modes. When the car is first started it in in "DSC mode". This is the most intrusive mode and keeps all four tires from "slipping" and uses the yaw sensors to keep the front and rear "inline" i.e. keeps the car from slipping sideways. When you press the button for 1 second it turns off the DSC, but leaves the DTC on. This basically shuts off the yaw sensors, but still keeps all four tires from slipping. So the car can "slide sideways" but keeps forward traction. The last mode invoked by pressing the button for 3 seconds shuts off the DTC (and DSC) but leaves the ELSD on. This allows the front tires to rotate at a different speed then the rear tires BUT tries to keep the two front tires rotating at the same speed. So as you can see in the first 2 modes you don't need the ELSD anyway (or you can say that it is on always).

So a Mechanical LSD would not help unless you can turn off the ELSD in the last mode
 
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Old May 28, 2009 | 11:22 AM
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This is more of how I understood it to work initially. Which comes back to the original questions... can it be turned off?

And maybe the million dollar question... is the mechanical one any better on the track than the electronic one?
 
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Old May 28, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Wizeguy9999
This is more of how I understood it to work initially. Which comes back to the original questions... can it be turned off?

And maybe the million dollar question... is the mechanical one any better on the track than the electronic one?
Ahhh, the age old question...Here is a thread on this conversation. https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ctory-car.html

I'd personally prefer the mechanical, but I'm old school, but not sure it's really worth the money or hassle at this point
 
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