F60 Climate Control - AUTO
#1
Climate Control - AUTO
Question:
In "Auto" mode - shouldn't the fan speed be controlled and change automatically by the system? It seems Auto only controls the temperature and not the fan speed or where the air is sent. Is this correct?!?! In a 40k+ car this seems really odd. Just as odd as there not being a synch button for both left and right so that you don't have to adjust both temps (left and right) separately all the time. Come on Mini!
Please tell me I'm not right about "auto" mode.
In "Auto" mode - shouldn't the fan speed be controlled and change automatically by the system? It seems Auto only controls the temperature and not the fan speed or where the air is sent. Is this correct?!?! In a 40k+ car this seems really odd. Just as odd as there not being a synch button for both left and right so that you don't have to adjust both temps (left and right) separately all the time. Come on Mini!
Please tell me I'm not right about "auto" mode.
#2
Auto mode controls the air temperature, the vent selection, and the fan speed (and the recirculation if you have that turned on, too). Note, the temperature you select is NOT the temperature of the air coming out of the vents. Rather, it's the desired cabin temperature. That's a common misconception about automatic climate control. It is odd that MINI doesn't have a 'sync' feature.
#4
I suspect that will come when it receives a LCI update in a year or two, since the CM is only in its second year (or third, if you’re talking U.S. model years). Clubman needs a refresh, too.
#5
Auto mode controls the air temperature, the vent selection, and the fan speed (and the recirculation if you have that turned on, too). Note, the temperature you select is NOT the temperature of the air coming out of the vents. Rather, it's the desired cabin temperature. That's a common misconception about automatic climate control. It is odd that MINI doesn't have a 'sync' feature.
I've not yet noticed the fan speed change in Auto mode. I'll pay more attention though.
#6
Yep - manufactures leave these things to add to facelift models otherwise they wouldn't have anything to improve LOL.
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#8
When in auto mode, the fan speed **** controls the relative speed of the fan. Maybe you've got it turned down? Try turn the fan **** clockwise till the third notch is lit up, after hitting the Auto button. See if that results in the fan speed changing. Also, keep in mind that the fan speed won't change instantly when being controlled by Auto mode, except maybe if the selected cabin temp varies greatly from the actual air temp in the cabin.
#9
When in auto mode, the fan speed **** controls the relative speed of the fan. Maybe you've got it turned down? Try turn the fan **** clockwise till the third notch is lit up, after hitting the Auto button. See if that results in the fan speed changing. Also, keep in mind that the fan speed won't change instantly when being controlled by Auto mode, except maybe if the selected cabin temp varies greatly from the actual air temp in the cabin.
Yes - I've moved the fan speed manually when in Auto to higher speeds which increases the speed. But the whole point is that it does that automatically. Ex I had the system in Auto. Had the fan speed on low (I had to set it there). Parked the car in the hot sun for a few hours. Came back to the car that was roasting. Turned on the car and the fan speed still was where i left if (mind you the system is in auto). I have the temp set to 68, it's 80 out and roasting in the car. The fan speed never increases - after 10 min of driving I just turn up the fan speed myself. In my Audi it would have started blowing cold air at high speed to cool the car off.
#10
I think by setting the fan speed manually you override the "auto" aspect of the speed. Otherwise there would be no point in allowing you to be in auto and have adjustments to auto. This isn't an Audi unfortunately when it comes to climate control. It is probably the worst climate system of any car I've driven that is supposedly "auto". My Nissan Murano literally blew this away with hot or cold air.
I hate driving along in the winter with the temp set to 70 and getting a stream of cold air in my face. Have to crank it up to 74 to stop that foolishness.
I hate driving along in the winter with the temp set to 70 and getting a stream of cold air in my face. Have to crank it up to 74 to stop that foolishness.
#11
I do notice the climate control isn't very good either. It is a shame but overall I'm happy with the car. I just use 4 degrees in either direction to compensate. 64 during summer and 74 during winter. Also, if you make sure your rear vents are closed it does a better job. I rarely have people in the back so I just keep them closed until I do. This will help a bit with the fan speed.
My only pet peeve with this climate control system is when I turn the left dial I have to also turn the right one to match. I have OCD so not being able to control both with one dial is annoying to me. My Lexus, would allow me to control both with the left side, until someone on the passenger side hit their temp settings. If I wanted to sync them again I simply pushed a "dual" button.
My only pet peeve with this climate control system is when I turn the left dial I have to also turn the right one to match. I have OCD so not being able to control both with one dial is annoying to me. My Lexus, would allow me to control both with the left side, until someone on the passenger side hit their temp settings. If I wanted to sync them again I simply pushed a "dual" button.
#13
I think by setting the fan speed manually you override the "auto" aspect of the speed. Otherwise there would be no point in allowing you to be in auto and have adjustments to auto. This isn't an Audi unfortunately when it comes to climate control. It is probably the worst climate system of any car I've driven that is supposedly "auto". My Nissan Murano literally blew this away with hot or cold air.
I hate driving along in the winter with the temp set to 70 and getting a stream of cold air in my face. Have to crank it up to 74 to stop that foolishness.
I hate driving along in the winter with the temp set to 70 and getting a stream of cold air in my face. Have to crank it up to 74 to stop that foolishness.
#14
Yes - I've moved the fan speed manually when in Auto to higher speeds which increases the speed. But the whole point is that it does that automatically. Ex I had the system in Auto. Had the fan speed on low (I had to set it there). Parked the car in the hot sun for a few hours. Came back to the car that was roasting. Turned on the car and the fan speed still was where i left if (mind you the system is in auto). I have the temp set to 68, it's 80 out and roasting in the car. The fan speed never increases - after 10 min of driving I just turn up the fan speed myself. In my Audi it would have started blowing cold air at high speed to cool the car off.
And regarding manual mode, the fan speed is actually not manual unless Auto mode is off. Attached are relevant screenshots from the owner's manual.
#15
When in Auto mode, the fan speed **** adjusts the "automatic intensity." BMW has used a similar system for going on 10 years now. I'm not a fan of it, but it is what it is (and I still think it's better than manual climate control). So, if you have the fan intensity set to the first notch when in Auto mode, the fan will never blow at anything but a low fan speed, no matter the temperature differential. Think of the auto intensity as a fan speed limiter (both lower and upper limits) of sorts. So, if you turn the fan **** when in Auto mode to perhaps the third notch, you're increasing the maximum speed at which Auto mode will set the fan to. As cabin temp starts to equalize with what you've set the dials to, the fan speed will come down. Though, there are many other factors such as humidity and the intensity of the sun. All of those things are factored into how fast the fan spins and how cold (or warm) the air coming from the vents is. Setting the temp to 68 when it's 80 outside will likely result in the fan running at high speed for an extended period of time (probably with the recirculate on, too) since that's a large temperature differential, so you're not likely to see automatic fan speed changes very quickly.
And regarding manual mode, the fan speed is actually not manual unless Auto mode is off. Attached are relevant screenshots from the owner's manual.
And regarding manual mode, the fan speed is actually not manual unless Auto mode is off. Attached are relevant screenshots from the owner's manual.
oh well. It is what it is
#16
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In my old R56, if it were that scenario, after about a minute of light fan speed it would go full-blast for like 5 minutes until the temp started dropping. Sounds like the same system but on Full Intensity.
I guess if you set your intensity (since you can) to the highest, it will be "full auto" like you want...and get the temp to where you want it
I guess if you set your intensity (since you can) to the highest, it will be "full auto" like you want...and get the temp to where you want it
#17
In my old R56, if it were that scenario, after about a minute of light fan speed it would go full-blast for like 5 minutes until the temp started dropping. Sounds like the same system but on Full Intensity.
I guess if you set your intensity (since you can) to the highest, it will be "full auto" like you want...and get the temp to where you want it
I guess if you set your intensity (since you can) to the highest, it will be "full auto" like you want...and get the temp to where you want it
#18
notch seemed to be the sweet spot. I do wish they would get rid of the auto intensity and just let the fan do its thing 100% on its own when in auto mode. Who wants to adjust, or even understands, “auto intensity?” Probably not many!! Then again, I’ve found that not many people actually use automatic climate control properly anyway.
#19
Right, that was what I was implying would solve your issue. You need to turn up the auto mode intensity. Keep in mind, however, that it’s overall intensity. So if you turn the intensity all the way up, the fan will always be blowing at a moderate to high speed. My suggestion? Try the auto intensity in the middle (3rd notch, I think). On my past BMW’s I found that to be a good compromise. Taking delivery of our MINI tomorrow, so can’t say with certainty, but I seem to recall from our extended test drives that the “middle”
notch seemed to be the sweet spot. I do wish they would get rid of the auto intensity and just let the fan do its thing 100% on its own when in auto mode. Who wants to adjust, or even understands, “auto intensity?” Probably not many!! Then again, I’ve found that not many people actually use automatic climate control properly anyway.
#20
I have a question for you guys. I bought two brand new Countryman's recently for me and my wife one in January 2019 and March 2019. My Countryman's climate control settings where I can change the temperature setting goes my changing in increments of 1 (i.e. 61,62,63,64,etc. As for my wife's new car that I bought this Friday, the dual climate control setting is going by increments of 2 (i.e. 60,62,64,66, etc.). We ordered the same exact car, but different exterior trims. I can't find anything in my manual or the settings in the vehicle where I can change anything for that. My local dealership says that some vehicles comes in twos and some comes in ones, but it is hard to believe that there are inconsistencies between the vehicle build.
I was wondering if any of you out there know how to change that.
I was wondering if any of you out there know how to change that.
#21
I don’t have an F60, but FWIW I do have a 2019 F57 and it’s dual-zone climate control adjusts in 2-degree increments. The climate control in my 2018 BMW X2 adjusts in 1-degree increments, but the climate control in my 2015 BMW i3 adjusts in 2-degree increments. I can’t figure out why the difference!!
#22
Right, that was what I was implying would solve your issue. You need to turn up the auto mode intensity. Keep in mind, however, that it’s overall intensity. So if you turn the intensity all the way up, the fan will always be blowing at a moderate to high speed. My suggestion? Try the auto intensity in the middle (3rd notch, I think). On my past BMW’s I found that to be a good compromise. Taking delivery of our MINI tomorrow, so can’t say with certainty, but I seem to recall from our extended test drives that the “middle”
notch seemed to be the sweet spot. I do wish they would get rid of the auto intensity and just let the fan do its thing 100% on its own when in auto mode. Who wants to adjust, or even understands, “auto intensity?” Probably not many!! Then again, I’ve found that not many people actually use automatic climate control properly anyway.
#23
My 2019 adjusts in one degree increments.
The intensity programming is actually BETTER than in my Audi/VW's. In those, you would get in the car and the fans would automatically start blowing at full intensity on a hot day.
In the MINI, you use the big center dial to set your MAX intensity. If you like allowing to blow at full blast, turn the dial all the way to the right. If you want more subtle fan pressure, turn it down to the left.
Either way, the Auto Climate Control will run at the max you set it to, until its able to hold the temp at lower fan speeds.
Any car will always need minor adjustments. Sometimes you just feel hotter/cooler and need a different temp setting. Ask my wife.
The intensity programming is actually BETTER than in my Audi/VW's. In those, you would get in the car and the fans would automatically start blowing at full intensity on a hot day.
In the MINI, you use the big center dial to set your MAX intensity. If you like allowing to blow at full blast, turn the dial all the way to the right. If you want more subtle fan pressure, turn it down to the left.
Either way, the Auto Climate Control will run at the max you set it to, until its able to hold the temp at lower fan speeds.
Any car will always need minor adjustments. Sometimes you just feel hotter/cooler and need a different temp setting. Ask my wife.
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