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MINIUSA battery replacement deal

I needed to replace the battery in my MINI and found a deal on the MINIUSA web site for battery replacement including installation for $320.



See https://miniusaservice.com/batteries
 
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I needed to replace the battery in my MINI and found a deal on the MINIUSA web site for battery replacement including installation for $320.

See https://miniusaservice.com/batteries
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...battery-431743

H7 AGM batteries run $200-250, depending on the seller and battery quality. Pep Boys is selling a Bosch Platinum Series for $180 at the moment, and you can pick up in store. You'll still need to register it with the car's computer, though. (This can be done with the "Carly for BMW" smartphone app and Carly's WiFi OBD dongle. Which are a bit expensive for a one-time task.)

https://www.pepboys.com/product/deta...OHC?quantity=1

If any part of this is intimidating, just pay the dealer. $320 is basically a good quality battery plus an hour of shop time to do the job (assuming 1 hour minimum charge and the usual hefty dealer rate).
 

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You'll still need to register it with the car's computer, though. (This can be done with a couple of smartphone apps and a WiFi OBD dongle.)
Bratling, Besides the Carly app what other apps allow you to register a new battery? didn't realize there were others.
 
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Bratling, Besides the Carly app what other apps allow you to register a new battery? didn't realize there were others.
BimmerCode - http://www.bimmercodeapp.com - both Android and iPhone versions

EDIT: I was mistaken. Bimmercode cannot register a new battery.
 

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BimmerCode - http://www.bimmercodeapp.com - both Android and iPhone versions
Where in Bimmercode??
 
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Where in Bimmercode??
Aaaaaaand… I was wrong. I thought it was there, but checked and nope, only coding. Nor does it appear its sister app, Bimmerlink, can register batteries.

This leaves Carly for BMW as the only app that I know of that can register a battery. (I know it does because I've done it myself!)

I have gone back and edited my posts to avoid confusion when people find this thread in the future.
 
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What happens if one does not "register" the battery w/ the ECU?
 
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its supposed to be coded to get the maximum life out of a battery. Ive read where un-coded batteries can last a week. Im sure its an extreme case
 
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Code if you change the battery size/capacity.

Register when you replace a battery, this adjusts the charging of the new battery versus the old one. If you didn't car could overcharge thinking it was still working on a fading battery.

IBS intel battery sys, comes into play, if you don't have it then the above may not apply.
One of those forever debated topics. Plenty of info out on the inter-webs. Some say they have done none of the above and survived, others have had issues.

When my turn comes, I'll just do it by the book.
 
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Should be able to register with the schwaben tool. Just make sure you get the matched size and CCA CA version.

Like others said it just controls the amount of charge as the battery ages, it supposed to prolong the life of the battery.

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The more I learn about this car the more I hate it. I wonder how many people actually even use this stupid feature.
The mini should be simpler, smaller, lighter, no power steering, no turbo, geared low, speedo back in the middle and please no auto stop/start. I feel cheated basically it is a slightly smaller very unreliable version of the toyota corolla
 

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Originally Posted by PrivateHudson
The more I learn about this car the more I hate it. I wonder how many people actually even use this stupid feature.

The mini should be simpler, smaller, lighter, no power steering, no turbo, geared low, speedo back in the middle and please no stop/start. I feel cheated basically it is a slightly smaller very unreliable version of the toyota corolla
So, tell us how you really feel!

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The more I learn about this car the more I hate it. I wonder how many people actually even use this stupid feature.

The mini should be simpler, smaller, lighter, no power steering, no turbo, geared low, speedo back in the middle and please no stop/start. I feel cheated basically it is a slightly smaller very unreliable version of the toyota corolla
Since the IBS predates the person you malign, it is kind of obvious you are in blame mode and just don't have a clue.

Just sell the car and make up stuff in another forum. Blame Clinton for the Ford Pinto perhaps?
 

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Originally Posted by PrivateHudson
The more I learn about this car the more I hate it. I wonder how many people actually even use this stupid feature.
The mini should be simpler, smaller, lighter, no power steering, no turbo, geared low, speedo back in the middle and please no auto stop/start. I feel cheated basically it is a slightly smaller very unreliable version of the toyota corolla
Yeah, I am sorry, but this stuff needs to stop. Sell the car and leave us, as in my opinion, the F56 is exactly what it should be and I would not have it another way. My experience has shown these cars are far more reliable than others. I have a family member with a Honda Accord, the battery went out on that at 23K miles, I have 45K miles and the battery is still running strong and has never left me stranded.
 
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Originally Posted by PrivateHudson
The more I learn about this car the more I hate it. I wonder how many people actually even use this stupid feature.
The mini should be simpler, smaller, lighter, no power steering, no turbo, geared low, speedo back in the middle and please no auto stop/start. I feel cheated basically it is a slightly smaller very unreliable version of the toyota corolla
Lol....I like that
 
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Bratling, Besides the Carly app what other apps allow you to register a new battery? didn't realize there were others.
A $20 BMW ENET Cable & included ISTA software

www.bmwenet.com
 
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Take a lightweight battery, you wont replace ever and save 20 kilos
 
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Take a lightweight battery, you wont replace ever and save 20 kilos
Unless it’s a track car this doesn’t sound like a good idea. A group 48 battery weighs 35-50 lbs depending on the make. You could downsize to save 5-10 lbs but for a non-race driver what is the benefit?

My bias: I live in New England and have had aging batteries fail to start cars plenty of times over the past few decades. If anything I prefer to UPsize my battery when possible! It’s just not fun jumping a car when it’s 5°F outside.
 
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Unless it’s a track car this doesn’t sound like a good idea. A group 48 battery weighs 35-50 lbs depending on the make. You could downsize to save 5-10 lbs but for a non-race driver what is the benefit?

My bias: I live in New England and have had aging batteries fail to start cars plenty of times over the past few decades. If anything I prefer to UPsize my battery when possible! It’s just not fun jumping a car when it’s 5°F outside.
Sorry you not correct, the MINI AGM battery weights 25 KG a light weight battery with sufficient standby power weights 1KG ( My weights 0,5 kg) with lifetime warranty. So over the lifetime (3 Batteries) its actually cheaper, so its not a weight reduction of 5-10 lbs as you say its 53 lbs.

100 kg less of weight equals 0.3 Liter per 100 km ( based on 10Liter/100km average use)

Are you a battery dealer ?

 
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Will a new battery need to be registered on a 2004 Base? From what I can find, it seems no.....or so I hope. Thanks
 
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Sorry you not correct, the MINI AGM battery weights 25 KG a light weight battery with sufficient standby power weights 1KG ( My weights 0,5 kg) with lifetime warranty. So over the lifetime (3 Batteries) its actually cheaper, so its not a weight reduction of 5-10 lbs as you say its 53 lbs.

100 kg less of weight equals 0.3 Liter per 100 km ( based on 10Liter/100km average use)

Are you a battery dealer ?
As I’m so badly informed about batteries, I think you may safely assume not :-)

Tell me more about this 16oz battery. Is it some kind of Li-polymer or NiMH like small electronics use? They’ve got excellent power density but the ones I know of are designed for steady draw down, not a massive discharge over a few seconds.

Would you be so kind as to tell us what make and model you got so we can go learn more?

like my signature says… I know I’m not always right and I want to learn. :-)
 
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As I’m so badly informed about batteries, I think you may safely assume not :-)

Tell me more about this 16oz battery. Is it some kind of Li-polymer or NiMH like small electronics use? They’ve got excellent power density but the ones I know of are designed for steady draw down, not a massive discharge over a few seconds.

Would you be so kind as to tell us what make and model you got so we can go learn more?

like my signature says… I know I’m not always right and I want to learn. :-)
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I did my replacement 2 years ago using a liteblox
https://liteblox.de/shop/

You are right, that it might be not for everybody, but for sure a hint for a tec-oriented driver, a change of such battery at the overstressed left side ( + Driver, transmission) is a dynamic improvement which "requires" even change of compression and rebound ( if you can ) and is a noticeable improvement.

Unfortunately the prices didnt really come down, but Iam sure it will be in due time standard for sporty model ex factory and will replace old lead batteries.

To get it working for daily use i placed a standby charger beside it, so that i can leave the car some weeks alone, but it still cranks after 2 days outside at depp minus degrees.

PS it don't need any coding ;-) Plug and play
 
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Dear lord .......... $1000+ for a battery! I'll go on a diet to lose weight to make my car lighter

Im jealous
 
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Dear lord .......... $1000+ for a battery! I'll go on a diet to lose weight to make my car lighter

Im jealous
i had a similar reaction! I would need to replace my old fashioned lead acid battery five times over the life of my vehicle to break even. But damn, what cool technology. We wants it, yesss…

The FAQ is interesting.

Advice: for the use in applications with intelligent alternator control (IBS / IAC), the vehicle’s electronics ECU has to be adapted beforehand (please communicate in this case)
Clutch Wotan, did you need to do this? Anything special or is it just the usual MINI battery registration process?

Now I’m asking out of curiosity. Between the high initial cost, the requirement to use their €150 charger, and the prohibition on jump-starting it it does run down, it’s not really for me. But what a damn cool option to have available!
 
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PLUG AND PLAY nothing to do besides change.

It comes down for me to Euros 800 (2 years ago )- So sorry that the Dollar is weak ;-)
there are also other manufacturers available. I agree its much for a battery, but I saved on no Panorama Roof (25 Kg) or AT (60 Kg), and I would hate to pay 360 with a BMW/MINI sandbagger incl. coding. ( I also find a victim for the old battery )

To cut 20 kgs off its quite ok, if you are at the end of conventional weight reduction . Compared to E Venturi US1500 snorkel ( Which i consider as xxxxxxx ) its not only weight but also better weight distribution. And i use it w/o any problems now for 2 years

And you should not talk about money when playing with your Honey.
 
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