Anyone see a RHD MINI in the U.S.?
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I saw a 2005+ RHD about 8 months ago and I REALLY wish I would have turned and stopped him after he waved. Only thing I can think of was that he was military, but maybe he did purchase from the UK, I don't know. Either way, it was probably the coolest thing I had ever seen.
We were both at opposite sides of the street at red lights and I looked across thinking to myself "uhhh, is there no driver in that MINI???" Sure enough, as he drove by, he was sitting in the passenger side driving. I thought it was the coolest thing. He gave an emphatic wave (obviously an enthusiast) and continued on. Never saw it again! Sure was nice...Royal grey with a black roof. Real sharp.
We were both at opposite sides of the street at red lights and I looked across thinking to myself "uhhh, is there no driver in that MINI???" Sure enough, as he drove by, he was sitting in the passenger side driving. I thought it was the coolest thing. He gave an emphatic wave (obviously an enthusiast) and continued on. Never saw it again! Sure was nice...Royal grey with a black roof. Real sharp.
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When I was in the Air Force stationed in the UK, I tried to buy a 2004 RHD from the military BMW dealership, but was told if the vehicle was ever going stateside it would have to be LHD. I thought that to be strange so I inquired further when I went to the Mini plant in Cowley, Oxford. Two different tour guide said all minis going to the states had to be LHD according to the U.S. DoT. If you're a UK citizen, you can import a RHD mini to the states, but it can only be on a one year basis. If you’re a UK military serving in the states, you can have it here as long as his tour is.
Another strange thing I saw in the UK was Minis bought through military sales had different options than the MiniUSA site. One was mini coopers convertible. Convertible were not just for the MCS. They also have a wider color range for military dealers.
Another strange thing I saw in the UK was Minis bought through military sales had different options than the MiniUSA site. One was mini coopers convertible. Convertible were not just for the MCS. They also have a wider color range for military dealers.
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Well that's interesting!!! I'm wondering how in the heck the guy that I saw got his RHD MINI in. I'm wishing more and more that I would have stopped him now!
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When I was in the Air Force stationed in the UK, I tried to buy a 2004 RHD from the military BMW dealership, but was told if the vehicle was ever going stateside it would have to be LHD. I thought that to be strange so I inquired further when I went to the Mini plant in Cowley, Oxford. Two different tour guide said all minis going to the states had to be LHD according to the U.S. DoT. If you're a UK citizen, you can import a RHD mini to the states, but it can only be on a one year basis. If you’re a UK military serving in the states, you can have it here as long as his tour is.
Another strange thing I saw in the UK was Minis bought through military sales had different options than the MiniUSA site. One was mini coopers convertible. Convertible were not just for the MCS. They also have a wider color range for military dealers.
Another strange thing I saw in the UK was Minis bought through military sales had different options than the MiniUSA site. One was mini coopers convertible. Convertible were not just for the MCS. They also have a wider color range for military dealers.
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from what I understand of the importation of military owned vehicles is "Yes the can sell them," but the vehicle would need to be brought up to American standards of emission and safety within the first year of sales.
Now I have seen lots of 1996 - 2000 (classic style) Minis (not reVinned) imported from Japan recently. The Japanese emissions standards have always been higher than the US‘s, well except for California. You may want to thing about checking that out.
Ash
Now I have seen lots of 1996 - 2000 (classic style) Minis (not reVinned) imported from Japan recently. The Japanese emissions standards have always been higher than the US‘s, well except for California. You may want to thing about checking that out.
Ash
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familiarstranger is correct - you're not supposed to permanently import any RHD car for which there's a LHD equivalent sold in the States, and that's a federal regulation, not a state one.
The postal jeeps probably get an exclusion based on the specific duties they have to perform, because I'm pretty sure there were Jeep models available concurrently with RHD and LHD.
The postal jeeps probably get an exclusion based on the specific duties they have to perform, because I'm pretty sure there were Jeep models available concurrently with RHD and LHD.
Last edited by ScottRiqui; 12-04-2007 at 07:34 PM.
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Importing a right hand drive vehicle is POSSIBLE
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Importing a right-hand drive vehicle
[/FONT][FONT=ArialMT]. As previously indicated, an import
eligibility decision can be based on the substantial similarity of a non-U.S.
certified vehicle to a vehicle manufactured for importation and sale in the United
States, and so certified by its original manufacturer. If the vehicle you are seeking
to import is right-hand drive, even if there were a U.S.- certified version of that
vehicle, it might not be considered "substantially similar" for import eligibility
purposes. Our experience has shown that the safety performance of right-hand
drive vehicles is not necessarily the same as that of apparently similar left-hand
drive vehicles offered for sale in this country. However, NHTSA will consider the
vehicles "substantially similar" if the manufacturer advises the agency in writing,
on the manufacturer ' s letterhead (and not that of an authorized dealership or
other such entity affiliated with the manufacturer) that the right-hand drive vehicle
would perform the same as the U.S.-certified left-hand drive vehicle in crash
tests. Absent such evidence, the petitioning RI would have to demonstrate that
the vehicle, when modified, would comply. In this case, you might want to contact
one or more of the RIs listed on our website to obtain their opinion on the
feasibility of conforming the right-hand drive vehicle to the FMVSS, and the costs
involved in conforming the vehicle and petitioning NHTSA for a determination as
to whether the vehicle is eligible for importation.
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eligibility decision can be based on the substantial similarity of a non-U.S.
certified vehicle to a vehicle manufactured for importation and sale in the United
States, and so certified by its original manufacturer. If the vehicle you are seeking
to import is right-hand drive, even if there were a U.S.- certified version of that
vehicle, it might not be considered "substantially similar" for import eligibility
purposes. Our experience has shown that the safety performance of right-hand
drive vehicles is not necessarily the same as that of apparently similar left-hand
drive vehicles offered for sale in this country. However, NHTSA will consider the
vehicles "substantially similar" if the manufacturer advises the agency in writing,
on the manufacturer ' s letterhead (and not that of an authorized dealership or
other such entity affiliated with the manufacturer) that the right-hand drive vehicle
would perform the same as the U.S.-certified left-hand drive vehicle in crash
tests. Absent such evidence, the petitioning RI would have to demonstrate that
the vehicle, when modified, would comply. In this case, you might want to contact
one or more of the RIs listed on our website to obtain their opinion on the
feasibility of conforming the right-hand drive vehicle to the FMVSS, and the costs
involved in conforming the vehicle and petitioning NHTSA for a determination as
to whether the vehicle is eligible for importation.
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Importing a RHD vehicle is POSSIBLE....more on
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I have a 78 Mazda RX7 that is RHD, that I bought off of a guy who was stationed in Japan in the early 80's in the US Military. He brought it back with him, never titled or registered it or anything. Took some paperwork and some time, but I got it all titled and registered just fine. In NY there are some weird inspections you have to go through, but nothing major. It is old enough where no one really cared though lol.
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I recently purchased a classic Mini RHD and found no law in VA that requires it to conform to LHD standards.
After having driven the car a bit, I see no crash test merit either. In fact, if I were to be in a head on with anything else in such a small car, it's not likely that the side of the car I'm on would make a whole hell of a lot of difference anyway.
That being said, I'm not posotive, but pretty sure that most people in law enforcement wouldn't consider this an infraction(if it were) that warrants the bother of citing. Theres got to be something much more pressing, Know what I mean?
After having driven the car a bit, I see no crash test merit either. In fact, if I were to be in a head on with anything else in such a small car, it's not likely that the side of the car I'm on would make a whole hell of a lot of difference anyway.
That being said, I'm not posotive, but pretty sure that most people in law enforcement wouldn't consider this an infraction(if it were) that warrants the bother of citing. Theres got to be something much more pressing, Know what I mean?