I have seen dyno numbers that have been listed on this board with excess of 230 whp and been doing lots of research and study/consulting about the possibility of going even further. Which brings me to this search/question: I have yet to run a dyno on my car, but with the mods that I've done so far, most of which are stated in my sig, I have been told by a very reputable shop that has done all my mods and works on moding Minis-BMWs on a daily basis and have been doing so for many years, that I should very well be within the 230 WHP range. Now my question comes, is 250 attainable??

The one common denominator that all mechanics/engineers will tell you is the correct tunning, something that has been done on my car very carefully and with good effect.

I am currently thinking about installing a custom built water to air-air to water IC from England along with DT-BPV and the VGS. Under cooler circumstances which the IC will provide to my engine, is 250 then feasable or am I reaching/dreaming??

 

I think that the best bet would be to have your car dyno'd. This way you can see exactly how much power you have and how much more you need to meet your goal.

 

I can provide you with a brand new custom GRS Chargecooler sans front radiator for 450GBP. It cost me 650GBP to have made, so a big saving from new! And no wait... The front rad can be bought from Graham at GRS.

The reason for me selling is that I am going single turbo which means I won't be using the 'snoots' anymore. PM if you're interested, I have pics as well.

Cheers,

Henry

 

I believe its dooable but its going to take a lot of R&D and $$$, it seems to have taken for ever to go past the 220s and now we have 2 in the 230 and one in Greece has just made 236.

Its like all forms of racing its easy to get the big gains then finding the next 5whp or 1/10 takes a lot of work.

If you want the easy route remove supercharger and go turbo only.

Good luck

 

The package is for sale under the name No Hype 275. See the DMH web site for details. And they don't "throw codes."

 

Done that. See the DMH web site for details. http://www.dmhmotorsports.net/MiniPe...ePackages.html

 

You mean that your 275 package makes 250+ at the wheels?? thats a 9% drivetrain loss. Is that what the Dynapack is showing on average??

Congrats on the numbers Don

 

Yes, 250 WHP on a Dyanpack with an accuracy of +/-1%. And that is with the stock intercooler. If you utilize our intercooler you will gain even more. Test rides are a call away.
(This is not all that new!)

 

So you've got a demo car as well now Don, is this a M45 SC engine as well??

That is some serious whp with a stock IC

At what rpm is that, any chance of posting the dyno graph??

When will you be hitting the dragstrip as I rather race something in the other lane than dynos

 

http://www.dmhmotorsports.net/MiniPe...ePackages.html

There's a dyno for the 265 package.

mb

woops, repost, my apologies.

 

Looking at your sig and picture of your car, if you're still running S-lites...Then going to light weight wheels and tires will make a big difference on how quick your car is, unless you're pruely going for high dyno numbers then I guess it doesn't matter. Good luck with your quest...as I understand you're getting into the $$$ stage of modding...

 

I'm confused the 265 package has 13% drivetrain loss as the whp is 229 so in theory would the 275 dyno at 239??

Nice numbers with a stock pulley Don, how come you didn't go past 7500??

 

--Cars have been running around like this since last summer -- it's nothing new. It is with a stock M45 and intercooler. I just don't post a whole lot about them for various reasons.
--I estimate the drivetrain loss of a MCS to be around 10.5%
--No need to be confused, that dyno run is the 265 package at only 13.3 psi of boost.
--I could rev past 8000 if needed; then you seen some really high WHP numbers. There are some inherent weaknesses in the engine and the higher you go the more likely you will find one. Also there are clutch issues on the car in question. Even though SPEC claims the Stage 2 will handle 280 foot pounds of torque we are finding that number way over-inflated.

 

You must have to much work on then or a millionaire, I'd be posting my *** off....

Do you think my 213whp at 7000 is right or possible??

 

As I have said before, I'm semi-retired. I only work on MINI stuff because I enjoy it at the road race track.
213 WHP @ 7000 is easily doable with the right parts.

 

I'm semi-retarded too!... oh wait....

 

poor Stoopid

 

...and for all of those who believe 239 WHP is possible with the stock MINI software you are wrong. Faith over reason; that is why it is called the Jesus head. Did the notion of lighter wheels/tires and uncalibrated dyno come to mind? And how do you explain the torque limiter or lack there of?

 

I think I'm still unclear about the question I posed initialy about my setup that I currently have along with having the IC-BPV-VGS upgraded, could the car produce around 250 whp or is that impossible??

 

We can bench race this query until the cows come marching home. You need to test & tune before your question can be accurately answered. Also, not all Coopers and engines in general are created equal. Some were born on Mondays & Fridays and some were born on Wednesdays.
Go dyno your Cooper! Test & Tune. Until then its just BS.

 

The problem you'll have soon Don is they will back up their claims at the dragstrip.
Where will that leave you and LDG

If you or one of your customes take there car down the strip it the same 1320 feet that all of us have to travel down even here in the UK.

2 of my stock ECU / software has shown its good for 213whp and 102.5 in the 1/4

 

Longboard

 

Don do you have to weigh the vehicle before you dyno it with a dynapack??

Is it part of the calculations for working out the whp??

Even hough we have rollers I do like the idea of this system and will probably ho on one over here at some point jist to compare.

 

Get your facts right Don. It was 231.9WHP and yes, It is the stock software. Take a look at my wheels Don, they are anything but light. Hell, I have 215 x 45 x 17 tires. I guess that makes it even more impressive.

It's just killing you that this head did this. Maybe, just maybe, its because you sell a head as well

Like I have said before Don, You sell good stuff. But the fact that you constantly call out NAM members really makes you look bad. I guess you just don't care.

Longboard

 

Glad I'm not the only one here who saw this coming. Never fails.