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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 06:54 AM
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New M7 product

Where does it go? I see it keeps things cooler...but where does it go?
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 06:56 AM
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Removed post to lessen confusion. The product was explained by Maximini.
 
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Thats what I thoguht, but I thought that was already released...and that it only worked with their IC unit.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by S Curvz
Thats what I thoguht, but I thought that was already released...and that it only worked with their IC unit.
That's what I thought. I was told it was part of "the system".
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 07:34 AM
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Yeah, their post didnt give much useful information. I hope someone fallows up and clears it up.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 07:40 AM
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i was there recently and peter (i presume?) showed off the aerogel to me. he didn't mention anyting about it being used only for their IC. he told me it was precut and readily installs, i assumed onto stock IC as well

what's the opinion/consensus on this product?
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 07:42 AM
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Doesn't keeping the hot air away from the intercooler just mean they're keeping the hot air at the supercharger? Anybody got an idea?
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 07:43 AM
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My understanding is that the new product goes where the current heat shield resides, above the header as it goes under the firewall and back to the exhaust.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by roaduscarnivorous

what's the opinion/consensus on this product?
well, I think the denim look is a nice touch...
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 07:45 AM
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I like the ascent rivets
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 07:46 AM
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Doesn't keeping the hot air away from the intercooler just mean they're keeping the hot air at the supercharger? Anybody got an idea?
I think the idea for the DFIC Aerogel "Skirt" was to prevent heat from the engine block soaking the underside of the DFIC
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by MINIotaple
Doesn't keeping the hot air away from the intercooler just mean they're keeping the hot air at the supercharger? Anybody got an idea?
that's similar to what i thought. the heat doesn't just disappear, has to go somewhere. i think the idea is that this aerogel absorbs the heat a lot better than the stock heatshield. but it has to radiate it back out somehow, right?
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 07:53 AM
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In the pictures I found it looks like a product which will work with all ICs in the market including the oem unit. If thats the case then thats a fine product by M7!
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 07:55 AM
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I think the idea for the DFIC Aerogel "Skirt" was to prevent heat from the engine block soaking the underside of the DFIC
Maybe I'm getting my engine parts mixed up, but the supercharger is right under the intercooler, right? If that's true, then, you're basically isolating the heat within the supercharger...
 
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Here is just a thought. While the FLIR pictures are pretty, doesn't that mean that they were taken with the hood open? And as such, doesn't that also mean that some of the heat has already escaped? And I am in no way saying that anyone is trying to deceive anyone else. But if the shots are taken with the hood open, than having the hood open for 10 seconds for one shot and 20 seconds for another shot would result in different temps. Just as an example. Perhaps an independent source could verify the claims?
 
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Originally Posted by goaljnky
Here is just a thought. While the FLIR pictures are pretty, doesn't that mean that they were taken with the hood open? And as such, doesn't that also mean that some of the heat has already escaped? And I am in no way saying that anyone is trying to deceive anyone else. But if the shots are taken with the hood open, than having the hood open for 10 seconds for one shot and 20 seconds for another shot would result in different temps. Just as an example. Perhaps an independent source could verify the claims?
Interesting.... I'm no scientist but see your point
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by roaduscarnivorous
that's similar to what i thought. the heat doesn't just disappear, has to go somewhere. i think the idea is that this aerogel absorbs the heat a lot better than the stock heatshield. but it has to radiate it back out somehow, right?
From what I understand from the announcement is that the M7 Aerogel EX is more of a heat shield than heat absorbant. It will keep heat from the DFIC and as we all know, cooler air gives more power. Since the air flowing through the DFIC is cooler now than before then it will even cool the engine better. I think also this is a bigger item that the normal Aerogel. This is just a thought and I'm sure that you will find more information about the material at this link https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=87919

and more discussion here https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...hlight=Aerogel

 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 08:10 AM
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Maybe I'm getting my engine parts mixed up, but the supercharger is right under the intercooler, right? If that's true, then, you're basically isolating the heat within the supercharger...
I don't think the supercharger is right under the intercooler. I think the intercooler sits on top of the engine and the supercharger is attached to the engine in the front. Technically, it's under the intercooler, but not right under it, as in touching it. That could all be totally wrong.

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Originally Posted by Drillslinger
I think the idea for the DFIC Aerogel "Skirt" was to prevent heat from the engine block soaking the underside of the DFIC
That's the concept - its designed to reflect engine heat away from the DFIC. I'm running one and it does seem to be very effective at isloating the DFIC from direct heat from the engine block - now is there a measurable performance effect, no clue?

PS - its more like a DFIC blankie than a skirt
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 08:24 AM
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I don't think the supercharger is right under the intercooler. I think the intercooler sits on top of the engine and the supercharger is attached to the engine in the front. Technically, it's under the intercooler, but not right under it, as in touching it. That could all be totally wrong.

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Okay, that makes sense.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 08:48 AM
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M7 Aerogel EX

I spoke to Peter the other day and he mentioned a new Airogel product. One that is going to be place on the heat shield about the exhaust manifold. Through this is not shown place on the car in any location, I have to believe, from the name given, M7 Aerogel EX, that this is the second airogel product M7 has introduced.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 10:04 AM
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PS - its more like a DFIC blankie than a skirt
Well, I better get one for my MINI. We all need a blankie.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by JS
I spoke to Peter the other day and he mentioned a new Airogel product. One that is going to be place on the heat shield about the exhaust manifold. Through this is not shown place on the car in any location, I have to believe, from the name given, M7 Aerogel EX, that this is the second airogel product M7 has introduced.
Hey JOEL!

And rumor has it that there will be an M7 Aerogel CAI down pipe "blankie" as well.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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Obehave is correct, it will not work. The air has enough of a problem exiting out under a TMIC as it is. If you were to add this the exhaust/exit side of the top mount would be really choked off.

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Is this not a concern anymore? Link
 
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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There is a little confusion here , let me try to clear it up. This is New product and resides in a completely different location in the engine compartment. The DFIC heat shield works under our DFIC and works only with that item. This blanket works with all Minis including coopers .It serves a totally different function in that it works to reduce under hood temps not just the intercooler. This blanket extends from the lower back of the valve cover , down over the top of the metal heat shield already in place and back towards the firewall. There will be more info to follow as we just got it done in time for the AMVIV show where it will be on display and available for sale.

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