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Drivetrain 231.9WHP with new big valve head. Stock cam and ECU.

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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 02:25 PM
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On a side note, we've figured out how to modify the DSC to function like supercar traction control . More to come!
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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Dyno charts:

Here are dyno charts.
before head, OBX header, alta bigger intake hose (just remembered)
2/27/05: 165.6 hp, 150.5 ft. lb. tq.

I believe temp. higher than 80 deg. F., arrived hot and nothing done to cool intercooler except blow air over intercooler.
graph 1 below

8/12/07, after head 207.5 hp, 166 ft-lb. tq. Temp. about 80 deg. F., maybe less

intercooler cooled with some ice before the last run.

different dynos, 91 octane gas
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveS
Here are dyno charts.
before head, OBX header, alta bigger intake hose (just remembered)
2/27/05: 165.6 hp, 150.5 ft. lb. tq.

I believe temp. higher than 80 deg. F., arrived hot and nothing done to cool intercooler except blow air over intercooler.
graph 1 below

8/12/07, after head 207.5 hp, 166 ft-lb. tq. Temp. about 80 deg. F., maybe less

intercooler cooled with some ice before the last run.

different dynos, 91 octane gas
42 hp delta... Not bad! My car was always strong, I dynoed around 191 on a dyno dynamics before the head.
 

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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rustyboy155
Peak HP was 232.9, although that was before we fixed the issue with the dip, Peak Torque was 190.1, on the same run, if it hadn't dipped, it looks like it would have gone up to 240-245.

We made 230.6 WHP on the final tune, and 186 ft/lbs, slightly less than our "Best" run, but in my mind,

Great Numbers Rusty . I'm glad to see you are finally in the 230 club.

I need to call Jan and get the download.

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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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I need that piece of the puzzle too...
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SteveS
Here are dyno charts.
before head, OBX header, alta bigger intake hose (just remembered)
2/27/05: 165.6 hp, 150.5 ft. lb. tq.

I believe temp. higher than 80 deg. F., arrived hot and nothing done to cool intercooler except blow air over intercooler.
graph 1 below

8/12/07, after head 207.5 hp, 166 ft-lb. tq. Temp. about 80 deg. F., maybe less

intercooler cooled with some ice before the last run.

different dynos, 91 octane gas
Maybe I'll join you in the 250 whp club soon :-)

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Great Numbers Rusty . I'm glad to see you are finally in the 230 club.

I need to call Jan and get the download.

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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY
I need that piece of the puzzle too...
Right next to ya Sid...patiently waiting till the right piece comes along.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by gnatster
Right next to ya Sid...patiently waiting till the right piece comes along.

dyno is open and waiting here in Cali

ROAD TRIP
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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Right next to ya Sid...patiently waiting till the right piece comes along.
You think we could both fit in the door way at the same time?
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dyno is open and waiting here in Cali

ROAD TRIP
I knew there was a catch...sad:
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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You think we could both fit in the door way at the same time?
I knew there was a catch...sad:
Sounds like we just need to kidnap him.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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Sounds like we just need to kidnap him.
Between you me and Bahamabart, we should get together and nab Jan/Laurent for randsom...
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY
Between you me and Bahamabart, we should get together and nab Jan/Laurent for randsom...
Looks like we need to put together a dyno tune day out our way for Jan.
 
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Originally Posted by Mini Fireman
Looks like we need to put together a dyno tune day out our way for Jan.

make it happen
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Revolution Mini Works
make it happen
I'm gonna work on it for sure.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 04:07 PM
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I would make a road trip just to meet Jan if we get a dyno day around us(IN, MI, OH, etc...) Dyno-ing is the last thing on my list right now, too many other things to accomplish first.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Revolution Mini Works
dyno is open and waiting here in Cali

ROAD TRIP
Originally Posted by Revolution Mini Works
make it happen
I thought you were going to make this toon available for everyone who bought your head, or is it just for people who can come to your dyno
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Revolution Mini Works
dyno is open and waiting here in Cali

ROAD TRIP
I see rustyboy did 23 runs on the dyno, what on earth would this cost? And what about us without a head, would it benefit us to come down?
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JIMINNI
I see rustyboy did 23 runs on the dyno, what on earth would this cost? And what about us without a head, would it benefit us to come down?

his car was run using very large injectors instead of putting in a new fuel system like some do. Now that everything is tuned , it won't take long to get the tune on. Running stock or JCW injectors is very easy to tune compared to Rusty's car. We are working on a package system where all you do is put the tune on. We are getting close to that already.

I have been working on "BASE" maps for other cars that will get you close so the tuning only lasts a short while on the dyno.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JIMINNI
I see rustyboy did 23 runs on the dyno, what on earth would this cost?
When tuning like that to create the base maps and then fine tune them you would rent the dyno by the hour or day. Less expensive then the 3 pulls for $X standard for a reading.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Revolution Mini Works
his car was run using very large injectors instead of putting in a new fuel system like some do. Now that everything is tuned , it won't take long to get the tune on. Running stock or JCW injectors is very easy to tune compared to Rusty's car. We are working on a package system where all you do is put the tune on. We are getting close to that already.

I have been working on "BASE" maps for other cars that will get you close so the tuning only lasts a short while on the dyno.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by gnatster
When tuning like that to create the base maps and then fine tune them you would rent the dyno by the hour or day. Less expensive then the 3 pulls for $X standard for a reading.
Looks like that post got you into 6th gear .
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JIMINNI
Looks like that post got you into 6th gear .
Yeah, so what, that and 5 bucks will get me an overpriced, overhyped, blandish coffee drink. It's not about quantity, it's a about quality.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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Yeah, so what, that and 5 bucks will get me an overpriced, overhyped, blandish coffee drink. It's not about quantity, it's a about quality.
Alrighty then.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JIMINNI
I see rustyboy did 23 runs on the dyno, what on earth would this cost? And what about us without a head, would it benefit us to come down?
The cost for the dyno was $200 for about 5 hours, extremely cheap dyno time. The goal was to develop a base map so nobody has to deal with the what we did. You baseline your car, upload the base map, dyno again, then make adjustments as necessary, dyno the final time, and you're on your way :-). Once the base map is completed, only little tweaks will be required on the dyno (Really only necessary if you're trying to squeeze every last pony out of your engine).
 

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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by rustyboy155
The cost for the dyno was $200 for about 5 hours, extremely cheap dyno time. The goal was to develop a base map so nobody has to deal with the what we did. You baseline your car, upload the base map, dyno again, then make adjustments as necessary, dyno the final time, and you're on your way :-). Once the base map is completed, only little tweaks will be required on the dyno (Really only necessary if you're trying to squeeze every last pony out of your engine).
Yea that is a very good price.
 
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