Drivetrain Skipping gears, like my Dad does?
Skipping gears, like my Dad does?
I really enjoy drivng a manual after years of automatics, but I do still like driving my E55 every so often when I want to be lazy. My question is many times when I drive I build up speed quickly and I'm going 80mph in 4th and I tend to skip 5th and put the car right into 6th gears. Is this bad in anyway, could is causing tranny problems by not going through all the gears? My Dad has been doing this my whole life but he does it worse, he will go from 2nd to 5th at 30mph, but all his cars last forever. To me I think what I'm doing is fine but some passengers think differently. What do you guys think?
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
I skip gears very regularly. There are other threads on this and if memory serves there should be no problem if the revs are matched OK. Don't quote me on this though, I'm not a doctor I just play one on TV.
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
I really enjoy drivng a manual after years of automatics, but I do still like driving my E55 every so often when I want to be lazy. My question is many times when I drive I build up speed quickly and I'm going 80mph in 4th and I tend to skip 5th and put the car right into 6th gears. Is this bad in anyway, could is causing tranny problems by not going through all the gears? My Dad has been doing this my whole life but he does it worse, he will go from 2nd to 5th at 30mph, but all his cars last forever. To me I think what I'm doing is fine but some passengers think differently. What do you guys think?
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I will often skip gears on upshift when briskly accelerating to a certain cruise speed.
1-2-6 or 1-2-3-6 following a stop/yield onramp, or 1-2-4/5 in typical suburban driving. There's nothign wrong with this as long as your revs are mostly matched and your power usage is appropriate, i.e. dont go 1-2, then into 6 if you feel you will still be stomping on it in 6th to keep accelerating.
1-2-6 or 1-2-3-6 following a stop/yield onramp, or 1-2-4/5 in typical suburban driving. There's nothign wrong with this as long as your revs are mostly matched and your power usage is appropriate, i.e. dont go 1-2, then into 6 if you feel you will still be stomping on it in 6th to keep accelerating.
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I know what you mean but I often drive 4,000 miles a month so shifing is fun if I was going to drive 30miles a day for something
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2013 GP2 #295, 270whp/310wtq, KO4 47mm Turbo, 18" NM Wheels, Alta intake, Manic Stage III+, HFS-3 Meth, 30% E85 Blend, Forged IC, Alta Hot Pipe, P&P/Ceramic Exhaust Manifold, m3 Extreme Ceramic DP, Vibrant mid res, 4" Double walled Tips, WMW/KW V3 CO, Alta Rear CA, CREE Fogs, Black out F/R Rings and Gas Cap, M7 CF Front Splitter, and No Stickers. MORE TO COME!! Previous 04Triple Black 17% Alta, MM Air/H2O, CAI, OBX Header, FBT Head, Shrick Cam, 234whp
I will often skip gears on upshift when briskly accelerating to a certain cruise speed.
1-2-6 or 1-2-3-6 following a stop/yield onramp, or 1-2-4/5 in typical suburban driving. There's nothign wrong with this as long as your revs are mostly matched and your power usage is appropriate, i.e. dont go 1-2, then into 6 if you feel you will still be stomping on it in 6th to keep accelerating.
1-2-6 or 1-2-3-6 following a stop/yield onramp, or 1-2-4/5 in typical suburban driving. There's nothign wrong with this as long as your revs are mostly matched and your power usage is appropriate, i.e. dont go 1-2, then into 6 if you feel you will still be stomping on it in 6th to keep accelerating.
I skip gears all the time. Its not a problem. I figure its a lot better to skip gears on a regular basis than occasionally slam it through the geard (which a lot of us probably do from time to time). Like stated above just make sure you fall into the right RPM range and dont have it bogging down on you after the gear skip.
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Yep I find that often when I'm accelerating on the freeway in 4th, that skipping to 6th has no negative effect. Just a drop in RPMs for saving some gas. Back in my MC days, I regularly drove in 3rd or 4th and never skipped gears because it was very noticeable when I did!
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Your fear of breaking things is unnecessary. Reread what people have said about rpm's and gear selection and quit worrying. If you match engine speed to road speed every thing will be fine. If you don't the car will tell you by it's actions and you'll learn what's correct for every situation.
Enjoy the motoring experience, become part of your machine..........
Hope this helps...
The syncros are pretty durable in this car, at least in comparison to the s2k. just remember that the syncros are designed to compensate for the difference between the rpm's on one gear change... Its not designed to change from 2nd gear at 6800 rpms to 6th gear at about 2K rpms. What i've learnt from my s2k is to let out the clutch until the revs drop down to where they would be at in 6th gear and then put it into the gear.... When i do that the gear slides in perfectly... like buttaah
Fear? No. I have no fear. If I did, the clutch wouldn't drop at 6500k on a regular basis.
The only thing I worry about is the sky falling on my head. Plus I don't need to read what people write or think about matching revs, because I can definitely teach a few people on how to do it properly.
Very true.
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For it to do my will, all I need to do is think.
For it to do my will, all I need to do is think.
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camelpilot It seems I offended you, that was not my intent. I guess I should have put your quote in the body of my response.
For clairifcation here's what it would look like had I done that:
Before getting my Mini I drove over the road trucks and skipping gears was standard operating procedure. Shifting with out the clutch as well was the normal not the abnormal.
Your fear of breaking things is unnecessary. Reread what people have said about rpm's and gear selection and quit worrying.
Originally Posted by camelpilot
Skipping gears saves clutch, synchros and transmissions. It's good to do, whether it's racing or street driving.
If you match engine speed to road speed every thing will be fine. If you don't the car will tell you by it's actions and you'll learn what's correct for every situation.
Enjoy the motoring experience, become part of your machine..........
Hope this helps...
For clairifcation here's what it would look like had I done that:
Before getting my Mini I drove over the road trucks and skipping gears was standard operating procedure. Shifting with out the clutch as well was the normal not the abnormal.
Your fear of breaking things is unnecessary. Reread what people have said about rpm's and gear selection and quit worrying.
Originally Posted by camelpilot
Skipping gears saves clutch, synchros and transmissions. It's good to do, whether it's racing or street driving.
If you match engine speed to road speed every thing will be fine. If you don't the car will tell you by it's actions and you'll learn what's correct for every situation.
Enjoy the motoring experience, become part of your machine..........
Hope this helps...
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