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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 08:45 AM
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Ngk's Are Available A '' Advance Autoparts'',at Least In Nc. For $6.99 Ea.(bkr7e1x-11) One Step Colder Than Stock.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by obehave
Norm, I was there when Ben did the install. Impedance on the wires was higher than the Jackson wires he was taking off but consistent across wire lengths. ( I have forgotten the value)
Quality looked good too.

Long term who knows but for $24 they look like a good deal.
Yeah, what he said! Not sure whether to blame plugs or wires or both, but throttle response seemed more consistent. I was very very glad I did check my plugs at this time, as my #3 was backed off pretty bad, and was experiencing some degree of blow-by(if that's the right term..but the top of the plug has a nasty brown streak going from bottom to top). I'd say considering the troubles many have had, most recently by Coop d' etat, it's well worth checking the torque on your plugs every 5-7k, regardless of what plugs you're using. I wouldn't hesitate on the Kingsborne wires... they are the 8mm wires without the 1200 degree firebraiding. If you're having temps underhood like that anyhow, you have more serious problems. Perfect fit, darn good connectors... nice color, and the car does run fine on them.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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Thanks for the input

Originally Posted by obehave
Norm, I was there when Ben did the install. Impedance on the wires was higher than the Jackson wires he was taking off but consistent across wire lengths. ( I have forgotten the value)
Quality looked good too.

Long term who knows but for $24 they look like a good deal.
I got antsy waiting for F15EWeapon to answer, one of my OEM wires (#3) has a bad coil connector. So I ordered and spent almost 3X as much with Out Motoring on a set of Kingsborne 8 mm Plug Wires with Firebraid @ $69.73 to my door. These wires appear to be put together pretty well and should be flexible enough not to have any severe bends.
Might as well get some of these too,
product code 6988, NGK BKR7EIX-11 .044" (1.1mm) $6.95
http://sparkplugs.com/ after I check at AutoZone/Pepboys.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by norm03s
I got antsy waiting for F15EWeapon to answer, one of my OEM wires (#3) has a bad coil connector. So I ordered and spent almost 3X as much with Out Motoring on a set of Kingsborne 8 mm Plug Wires with Firebraid @ $69.73 to my door. These wires appear to be put together pretty well and should be flexible enough not to have any severe bends.
Might as well get some of these too,
product code 6988, NGK BKR7EIX-11 .044" (1.1mm) $6.95
http://sparkplugs.com/ after I check at AutoZone/Pepboys.
Hope you have better luck with your autozone than I did with 3 different ones here.

You'd have thought I was talking about this

I happen to have a picture

 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by obehave
Hope you have better luck with your autozone than I did with 3 different ones here.

You'd have thought I was talking about this

I happen to have a picture

Try http://www.jscspeed.com/mini/mini_base.html ...not as cheap as Autozone but you might ask them to match prices...
 
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MSFITOY
Try http://www.jscspeed.com/mini/mini_base.html ...not as cheap as Autozone but you might ask them to match prices...
Thanks.
I have mine. I was just taking cheap shots
 
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by F15EWeapon
Yeah, what he said! Not sure whether to blame plugs or wires or both, but throttle response seemed more consistent. I was very very glad I did check my plugs at this time, as my #3 was backed off pretty bad, and was experiencing some degree of blow-by(if that's the right term..but the top of the plug has a nasty brown streak going from bottom to top). I'd say considering the troubles many have had, most recently by Coop d' etat, it's well worth checking the torque on your plugs every 5-7k, regardless of what plugs you're using. I wouldn't hesitate on the Kingsborne wires... they are the 8mm wires without the 1200 degree firebraiding. If you're having temps underhood like that anyhow, you have more serious problems. Perfect fit, darn good connectors... nice color, and the car does run fine on them.

I just received these today from importpartsspec.com:


They look good, but they neither say kingsborne anywhere on the package nor do they say the diameter . I've never bought Kingsborne wires before so I don't have any reference for comparison.

What do you think?
 
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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has anyone tried bosch plat
+4's in a mini. had then in my turbo vw and they were great
 
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 01:33 PM
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I bought mine from Kingsbourn

I got my wires from Kingsbourn directly and the Packaging looked exactly like yours. While I was at it, I added the metal braiding ...for $12 why not.

They seem to be of good quality and have good connectors.

Kingsbourn also said they make both 7mm and 8mm wire sets....they did not say why one would be better than the other though.

I imagine the effect of plug wires would only be felt if one or more were to "go bad"...Just a guess

I just did it as a preventitive measure ...Been really hot here this summer, so when I did the plug change.,..I also did new wires.
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I just received these today from importpartsspec.com:


They look good, but they neither say kingsborne anywhere on the package nor do they say the diameter . I've never bought Kingsborne wires before so I don't have any reference for comparison.

What do you think?
 
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 01:47 PM
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For what it's worth..
I spoke directly with the guys at import parts spec... nice fella there that spoke with me at length about the mini parts market. He was full of questions about what sorts of things other people tend to carry. They tend to deal with more OEM type parts than anything, so I don't expect to see them as a vendor anytime soon. I asked very directly about the size and source of the kingborne wires. He assured me that they indeed come from there, and that they were the 8mm variety, not the 7mm.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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Old Sep 19, 2006 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by HHFD633
has anyone tried bosch plat
+4's in a mini. had then in my turbo vw and they were great
Mine came with platinum +4s. NGK.
 
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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just finally had a chance to swap out the IK22s today, here's the pic after about 25,000 miles:

very uneven wear, worst wear is the 4th cylinder (left most one) (sorry for the crappy pic, still learning to use macro mode on my new camera), note that i installed Livewire wires and a coil pack around 5000 miles after the spark plugs gone in, and i didnt really feel misfire till really recently.... so there is defenitely some relationship between the IK22 and a more powerful coil pack

installed new NGK BKR7EIX today, and well, we'll see how things go
 
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by kyriian
just finally had a chance to swap out the IK22s today, here's the pic after about 25,000 miles:

very uneven wear, worst wear is the 4th cylinder (left most one) (sorry for the crappy pic, still learning to use macro mode on my new camera), note that i installed Livewire wires and a coil pack around 5000 miles after the spark plugs gone in, and i didnt really feel misfire till really recently.... so there is defenitely some relationship between the IK22 and a more powerful coil pack

installed new NGK BKR7EIX today, and well, we'll see how things go
Your plugs have the same coffe stain 1 of mine did and I've seen others. Mine and 1 other I know for sure were from plugs not at their proper torque.
Do you know if this is true for yours as well?
 
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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hm... well i know for sure when i did the plugs i did the pulley, when the pulley guy threw them in he must've used some threadlock, so it did not lose torque at all through it's life and every now and then i check the torque its never off much...

so it might be something else
 
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 05:26 AM
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Advance Autoparts

Originally Posted by nascar mini
Ngk's Are Available A '' Advance Autoparts'',at Least In Nc. For $6.99 Ea.(bkr7e1x-11) One Step Colder Than Stock.
NGK BKR7EIX-11 not carried in stock at my store, ordered, next day service $6.96 ea + tax 29.24
PEPBOYS, Not in stock, wouldn't place an order
AUTOZONE, to far away didn't check
Thanks guys for all your input + pictures and experiences with them.
IMHO I think these are the best bang for the buck + performance
 
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by kyriian
hm... well i know for sure when i did the plugs i did the pulley, when the pulley guy threw them in he must've used some threadlock, so it did not lose torque at all through it's life and every now and then i check the torque its never off much...

so it might be something else

Never heard of anyone ever using thread lock on spark plugs.

Not trying to be a putz but you contradict yourself in the part I placed in bold.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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so im not an english major.....

point is, the thread lock (could be a thread sealant) kept the spark plug in the cylinder block.... not sure which one they used, with the NGK i threw in some medium strength ones, but i am not sure whether they will burn off in there...
 
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Old Feb 16, 2008 | 10:18 AM
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Here we go again

Originally Posted by norm03s
NGK BKR7EIX-11 not carried in stock at my store, ordered, next day service $6.96 ea + tax 29.24
PEPBOYS, Not in stock, wouldn't place an order
AUTOZONE, to far away didn't check
Thanks guys for all your input + pictures and experiences with them.
IMHO I think these are the best bang for the buck + performance

How much does the dealer charge for the OEM plugs?
 
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by obehave
Your plugs have the same coffe stain 1 of mine did and I've seen others. Mine and 1 other I know for sure were from plugs not at their proper torque.
Do you know if this is true for yours as well?
no pic and just chiming in but taking a guess without seeing the pic:
http://aftermarket.denso-europe.com/...170000011.aspx

sorry for the bump, been researching this myself...
 
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