sweet keep us informed . i like the functionality of a shaker but i'm not sure the cooper could pull off the look.

 

fan assist out the back of the dfic when not moving . ha!!

 

This raised DFIC idea is really interesting. How many inches or cm would the DFIC have to be raised off the engine to get the "straight-through" effect? If you did re-position the DFIC that high off the engine, what would it take to re-route the charge up into the raised DFIC and then back down from the other side of the DFIC to the intake? Would really large silicon tube work? How smooth could you make the route for the air without the hood looking stupid or wierd (if it would at all?)

Someone with some talent ought to PhotoShop this idea just for grins.

 

well silicon would probably be too flexible and implode so cast pieces would probably need to be made but if only the top part stuck thru ;maybe some reinforsed rubber boots like stock. it would look better too . the dfic has the horns at the bottom ;so they needn't be seen . but, that top peice would look nice with a fiber see thru scoop .not too over the top . ya think?

 

just took a look at m7's site again . the horns seem in the middle of the ic. so don't know how much is available to protrude. if the horns angled down at a 45% angle at the corners of the ic it could maybe work but only those who know how to make an ic would know if this is feasable. plus the stock cast pieces would be needing a recast. getting as we say out here wicked expensive.

 

i haven't seen the horns off the car . but i'm thinkin' the termination for them isn't a big oval as is the case at the ic. so let's deep six the horns for some rigid plastic pieces. these could be made cheaply in any shape all that remains is a piece to connect these to the ic . a piece that angles down sharp enough to get the ic up into the wind.

 

well i just looked in my manual at some pics that pretty much shot that last idea to hell . so i'm done . too expensive at best we'd get part of the top of the ic in the wind. not worth cuttin' up the car.

 

Interesting turn this thread has taken, nice thinking outside the box or hood as it were in this case. When thinking about the hole in the hood remember that the motor rocks forward quite a bit. Without going to almost a solid mounts for the engine block I think you might need to have at least a 2 or possibly 3 inch gap at the front of the " shaker " cut out.

Randy
M7 Tuning

 

2-3 inches?

Does the mount design allow it to only rock forward (from "at rest") or can it go 1-1.5" forward or back from "at-rest"? Also, is there any similarly significant side-to-side motion allowed by the arrangement? This is beginning to sound like the hole in the hood would have to be ginormous, and I am wondering whether enough benefit would be acheivable to make the effort worthwhile?

Other than water leaking in and aerodynamics, what other problems are associated with the engine bay being open to the elements? What specific items under the hood must/should be shielded from water?

Is there enough potential to take this farther?

Do I have WAY too much time on my hands?

 

Fun to think about but there goes the "stealth" component....

 

Keep it in mind that we're actually talking about degrees of arc that the engine moves so the farther you are from the pivot point the more movement you have. So the higher the IC sets the more motion you will see.

You will see a minor swing past the resting point when you drop off the throttle but it is very small compared to the forward motion.

The urethane motor mount bushings reduce motion quite a bit. At a guess from watching mine I'd say by 50%.

 

With an engine damper I'd say the total engine movement at the DFIC is about 1/2" now compared to about 1" before ('05 car so the stock mount is a little softer than pre-'05 engines I believe.) And yes, the higher the IC the more the movement will be exaggerated. I say leave the IC under the hood and get the air out from behind it with a scoop like a reverse Ram Intake (sort of a Ram Outtake). haha.

 

Woa, post 666. Better listen.....

Agreed the IC needs to be under the hood. Inimini has got the under hood temp deal working ( by the way good job ) & it's getting people to think about managing it. When time permits ( got way tooooo much going on ) I'll complete a project that will, hopefully, isolate the IC ( somewhat ). Obe has been looking at some under hood ideas that might work as good exit. I'm looking under the car, ( I need the rest under there ), possibly to include some of Obe's thoughts.

 

Oooo Cool! Do I get design credits?

Free samples

A postcard

A kind thought

 

The degree of arc increase was what i was referring to but did not make it clear. The motor in its present state moves quite a bit , one of the big bugaboos for making a front mount survive for example. If you add any height the amount of movement is increased proportionally. Its not a deal breaker but it was a detail that I realized was being ignored so far and should be considered.

Randy
m7 tuning

 

We did consider the movement in the "air flow" therad.

You are on the money with the front mount. The present in-out hornes would need to go & a redesign for them. Given the real eastate available, not such an easy task.

 

Thats why its called a SHAKER

 

Thats why its called a SHAKER

 

Design credits? Nope
Free samples? You'll need a note from your mother that says you can have 1
A postcard? And where should it be mailed from?
A kind thought? Only if I can rest, undisturbed, under the car.

 

I was there back in the " shaker " days . Very cool effect to watch that big mill move around.

Randy'
M7 Tuning

 

Wouldn't it be more like a nodder?
Or maybe a "pecker"

 

Now that's a visual I would rather not have had

 

Bummer
Can do
The fabulous mansion you have purchased with the fortune accumulated from your marvelous invention.
Need a pillow?

 

 

we're dating ourselves.