All of that motion, noise and heat is not the way to go... just a sign of lost power. Internal combustion's days are numbered. I'm going electric!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2DGfisAndI

Well, maybe not with the MINI, at least not yet... Matt and I had some nice PM exchanges this morning about a RWD convertible project that I'm contemplating. No oil to change, spark plugs, coolant...

In the meantime, still a DFIC fan!

 

talking to my Pops, the EV-1 was 1.8 cents a mile to drive (charged at night at lower rates). Today, the Prius my mom drives is about 8 cents a mile. And that's just fuel costs.....

Think of what they'd done if they had a DFIC as well!

Matt

 

okay so montoya's gonna put the heat to the header? i like this idea. it kills a but load of birds at once. readuces heat at the header ; which then creates a heat sink type of deal pulling more engine heat to the header. it increases the dfic's efficiancy ; and it allows for no further cutting of the hood .

 

i appologize for all the rotten spelling but i'm on the "codine induced back went out today highway "

 

Matt - Any more numbers

 

I want a car powered by this

 

This guy will die mysteriously quite soon...probably from an unknown accident

 

wow this will be interesting . funny how it's not all over the news . i mean like every outlet possible . this is the biggest thing ever and i have to here about it on nam? where's green peace? where's all the tree huggers?

 

You're looking at a dead man--he just doesn't know it. Bummer, sounds like it could save the planet.
or not,

 

Funny. All 5 of us at work saiid the exact same thing.

 

Ciao, I have another idea to streamline the flow of the DFIC. I am sorry if this has been discussed before, I have not read the entire post .

Instead of raising the DFIC, just use an exit “scoop at the rear of the hood. I ascually mentioned this to Peter a while back but I think that he knows I am nuts . Use urethane bushings to limit the engine roll/movement. Build a tunnel under the hood to line up with the rear of the DFIC, when the hood is closed, to the exit scoop. I though about using the stock front scoop and turn it around, cut and shape to the contures to the hood. Or you could use an exit scoop, or two, like this one. It is even in CF to if you have a CF DFIC scoop.
https://secure.mckinneycorp.com/item...D0}&Cc=NACA&Bc
The air flow would enter the front scoop, pass though the DFIC into the tunnel under the hood and out the exit hood. The only problem is if you have a water sprayer, you would end up with it all over you windshield . Well, any thoughts
Okay, time to get back to my hole and take my meds...:impatient

Frodo

 

sounds like the book "The Formula"

woldn't it be nice if you were wrong?

 

2010. Wait & watch.

 

Is it me, or is it kinda of wierd to see that video, and suddenly resume DFIC discussion? It's kind of like discussing your parents just dying in a firey auto crash last night, and then discussing the new Snoop Dogg album.

I'm with you Obehave... viva water powered mini's!

 

I dug a little deeper into the "water welder" story. It has stirred some discussion among the more skeptical, most of whom believe it to be a scam or a hoax, citing a similar (if not identical) claim involving an alleged miracle product called "Brown's Gas". See Wikipedia at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown's_gas

The skeptics point out that the energy required to separate water into H and O (through an electrolytic process) is the same as the energy derived when the two recombine again into water. Thus there is no net gain (and NOT any miracle solution at all) even though the properties of the gas do have some interesting applications. Allegedly, there are also significant hazards associated with the process and with the gas once it is generated and stored.

 

Storing Hydrogen and Oxygen???? yeah I would shy away from that if possible. Well I guess maybe not if you were trying to make your own hindenburg.

 

What about all those old folks who walk through WalMart with their little o2 tanks? Now hydrogen is another matter...

 

it's the 2 parts hydrogen to 1 part oxygen that you want to stay away from... although there are some horror stories about people getting trapped in fires and accidents with those o2 tanks.... not me no thanks.

 

But it's also true that we spend more in energy in getting some oils out of the ground than the energy content of the oil! Still, it's economic because of the different properties of the energy medium (like gas will sit on a shelf, or can be transported without wires....)....

This is what is known as "point of use" reactive gas creation. And while the energy balance has to be worse than doing nothing, there's no storage of pure oxygen or hydrogen, in fact splitting the water to make the gasses means you have just the right amount of each for recombination.....

But the things that made me laugh (and cry) was that it's not "H2O" now it's "HHO gas"..... and that he'd take a torch like that and cut lead and the like in his shop. But he's old and doesn't need all those brain cells anymore! What was even more shocking was the news staff really sounded like they thought that you could just put water into something and replace the energy content of gas! Boy are there a lot of employed idiots out there. No wonder we're so far in decline, and only getting worse......

Matt

 

Rember the Hindenberg? And no I was not there.

Another thing, when you see something under your hood, or for that matter, any hood that is held together with, what appears to be TAPE.....

 

In a tiny effort to get this thread back on topic, I'm going to start a Browns Gas/ HHO topic in Off Topic, Autos for those interested. I'd really like to hear more about this stuff, so I can actually have a more educated view of what I'm seeing. I think it's relatively facinating.

So... how bout that DFIC!

 

it wont happen unless the oil/car companies can find a way to corner the h20 market. plus my mini would only want poland spring . it's just like that.

 

... the topic was DFIC?

Oh, yeah. That thing.

Thanks, F15EW!

 

Shaker hood - the best of the bunch was on the 69 Boss 302 w/ the inline Weber, great sound & a suprise under the hood.

Obe needs to start a thread. HHO & here's another link http://hytechapps.com/

Yup, that flat thing that is on top of the heavy thing.

Now that cooler weather is here, the DFIC should shine. Yes?

 

This is typical of what I see after 100 miles of dry/clean dust free driving...clearly, the air is not as clean as I thought and moving at good clip through the DFIC...

Yes...the plug boots were clean before I started driving today...