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Drivetrain DINAN says NO to crank pulley

Old May 10, 2006 | 10:36 PM
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Go read the Dinan white paper.
You know that thing that just whizzed over your head? That was the point of my post. You missed it.
 
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Old May 11, 2006 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Brian@WebbMotorsports
I would say to check the motor mount, especially if you have the later style. We have seen many failures - the oil leaks out. It is the mount on the passenger side that uses the 18mm nut. They can induce slight - very slight - vibrations.

Thanks Brian, I did check it out, although no leak but it looks pretty stripped. I will try to replace that and see. Thanks.
 
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Old May 17, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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UPDATE FROM DINAN - JUST REC'D THIS EMAIL RESPONSE. I will post an update if/when I hear from the Dinan engineering staff

Larry,

After some discussion here I've found that my original comments to you were in error. I was basing my original email on the pulley information from Steve's white paper and other discussions I've had here regarding pulley's but those were not directly in regard to lightweight pulley's for the MINI. So, in my email to you,I misspoke regarding any experiments using lightweight pulleys and MINIs. I'll refrain from commenting further on this and refer your questions to our engineering staff, having someone contact you regarding this issue.

Micah
Well - It has been two weeks since this email from Dinan and I have not been contacted by their engineering staff.
 
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Old May 17, 2006 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Clemens
Well - It has been two weeks since this email from Dinan and I have not been contacted by their engineering staff.
and your surprised......my best guess is this is a dirty diaper of their own creation....they are holding as far away from their noses as they can hoping it just goes away....
 
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Old May 17, 2006 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SpiderX
and your surprised......my best guess is this is a dirty diaper of their own creation....they are holding as far away from their noses as they can hoping it just goes away....
I am not surprised but I am dissapointed that Dinan would enter the MINI marketplace without the R&D that they spend on BMWs. IMO it is not good for their overall image eventhough I am sure that their BMW stuff is awesome.
 
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Old May 17, 2006 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Clemens
I am not surprised but I am dissapointed that Dinan would enter the MINI marketplace without the R&D that they spend on BMWs. IMO it is not good for their overall image eventhough I am sure that their BMW stuff is awesome.
Even bmw owners have problems with dinan...just because they are on good terms with bmw dealers doesnt mean they are perfect
 
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Old May 17, 2006 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Clemens
Well - It has been two weeks since this email from Dinan and I have not been contacted by their engineering staff.
And during those two weeks, there's probably been another few hundred thousand miles put on lightened crank pulley MINI's...

As I think I said earlier, it took several attempts via email and phone to get responses in the past. I suppose it still might take the same effort. At this stage, I've experienced enough...
 
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Old May 17, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RallyMINI
Even bmw owners have problems with dinan...just because they are on good terms with bmw dealers doesnt mean they are perfect
Lol, BMW owners have problems with BMW, and Mini owners with Mini, probably more then with Dinan. Anyhow, I can't speak to the Mini stuff but I was very happy with my Dinan stuff and the support I got from the indi shop that did the install as well as how the BMW dealer worked with it, the Dinan mods worked out well for me and smoothed over prior issues with aftermarket stuff. Anyway, I'd ping them again about it, who knows, maybe that person is on vacation or something.

It's funny how the same BMW dealer, who still is very visible with Dinan stuff for BMW had no info on the Mini stuff when I asked (the SAs were completely in the dark or just pretending to be). I do think they they feel a conflict with the JCW..
 
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Old May 18, 2006 | 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by eVal
Lol, BMW owners have problems with BMW, and Mini owners with Mini, probably more then with Dinan. Anyhow, I can't speak to the Mini stuff but I was very happy with my Dinan stuff and the support I got from the indi shop that did the install as well as how the BMW dealer worked with it, the Dinan mods worked out well for me and smoothed over prior issues with aftermarket stuff. Anyway, I'd ping them again about it, who knows, maybe that person is on vacation or something.

It's funny how the same BMW dealer, who still is very visible with Dinan stuff for BMW had no info on the Mini stuff when I asked (the SAs were completely in the dark or just pretending to be). I do think they they feel a conflict with the JCW..
My past service writer at Global Imports about 8 mo ago said they were having lots of trouble with the Dinan Mini products.....
 
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Old May 18, 2006 | 08:08 AM
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What's so surprising?

Originally Posted by Larry Clemens
I am not surprised but I am dissapointed that Dinan would enter the MINI marketplace without the R&D that they spend on BMWs. IMO it is not good for their overall image eventhough I am sure that their BMW stuff is awesome.
If they invest proportional to the market size in cars, or even worse, proportional to the number of cars times the average selling price, the Mini R&D would be much lower than for Bimmers...

Also, in asking about a part they don't even sell, and can't hope to make any money from selling to you, I'm not surprised that you're not a high priority....

Matt
 
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Old May 18, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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As I've said all along, it's understandable for me, buisness-wise, why DINAN doesn't dedicate more time, energy and R&D $ toward the MINI. The MINI market is relatively small. And, making these $20k cars perform better than their bread & butter efforts is probably not in their best interest any ways...

I however feel that if you make a showing, and they have, you should represent yourself as the professional that you are, or at least desire to be. Many folks who have MINIs also have BMWs, had them, or will have them going forward. I have a bad taste in my mouth from this experience, and if I ever own a BMW, I would seriously consider not doing business with them now...

Randy Webb is coming-out for like his 5th Bay Area Pulley Party next weekend (I arranged the 1st many moons ago) ... Peter of M7 is PM'ing me, and calling me back promptly, always brimming with enthusiasm and passion for the MINI... I love that kind of Community involvement and attention!
 
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Old May 18, 2006 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TonyB
As I've said all along, it's understandable for me, buisness-wise, why DINAN doesn't dedicate more time, energy and R&D $ toward the MINI. The MINI market is relatively small. And, making these $20k cars perform better than their bread & butter efforts is probably not in their best interest any ways...

I however feel that if you make a showing, and they have, you should represent yourself as the professional that you are, or at least desire to be. Many folks who have MINIs also have BMWs, had them, or will have them going forward. I have a bad taste in my mouth from this experience, and if I ever own a BMW, I would seriously consider not doing business with them now...

Randy Webb is coming-out for like his 5th Bay Area Pulley Party next weekend (I arranged the 1st many moons ago) ... Peter of M7 is PM'ing me, and calling me back promptly, always brimming with enthusiasm and passion for the MINI... I love that kind of Community involvement and attention!
I totally agree...... Randy, Peter, Eric are all fully supportive of this board and the Mini.....why spend money with people who treat us second class
 
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Old May 18, 2006 | 09:19 AM
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Thought better of it...

I don't really care where each of us spends our money. But NONE of the vendors here or anywhere else have been perfect.

Whatever... Dinan did have two cars at Big Mini Day, and they had cards and brochures for those that wanted information or to talk about thier products. Perfect? No. Room for improvement? Sure!

Matt
 
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Old May 18, 2006 | 12:09 PM
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Matt, I don't think anyone here has stated that any of them (our vendors or tuners) are perfect. I personally have stated that here, and other threads...

But we (it's human nature) look at what's provided or offered and factor that in against any short-comings, which we all have. If the good out-weighs the bad, well, that's good.

There a multitude of ways to contribute to the Community... The making and selling of performance parts is one, or two I guess, albeit important ones. And with that, so is support. Many of us feel that they have failed us in this regard. So where else have they helped to make the Community better?

A presence here on NAM...
Detailed How-To's to share with us...
Nationwide appearances for install parties & tech talks...
Participation in MINI gatherings and get-togethers...
Answering general questions on the MINI...
Competitive racing of the MINI...
Support of those racing a MINI...

If I'm not mistaken, these are "no's"... And if not, I apologize.

What we are left to base a decision on is minimal, and when that input is negative, well, one's final opinon is bound to be as it is expressed here...
 
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Old Sep 29, 2015 | 03:38 AM
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There are plenty of different vechiles out there with solid crank pulleys right from the manufacture with no problems..dont the newer gen minis have a basic solid crank pulley? If the pulley is balanced and perfectly round then how can it cause vibration? Only way is if the crankshaft itself is not perfect..i believe if they went the way of non pressed it wouldnt be a problem..as they did with the newer mini i believe..
 
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