Bear in mind those 2 big air horns for the IC would go. All the current induction plumbing would have to go and you could probably use a smaller IC than OEM.
Believe me if someone can plumb a turbo into the current setup, as has been done, making a Vortech or whatever fit wouldn't be any harder.

The only reason it hasn't been done is money.

 

Give a man enough slack.......

 

Bitter, much?

 

Nah.!

I just couldn't resist delivering a punch line for the setup.

I blame it on my parents

 

i think ppl underestimate the room in the MINI engine bay. It's cramped, but ppl manage to cram a lot of stuff under there.....

 

So if you've got a 100% efficient air to air intercooler that would mean that you could transfer heat between to fluids easily and almost instantaneously. The temperature of those two fluids would want to reach thermal equilibrium (that means the same temperature). The temperature that they equalize at is usually somewhere inbetween the two temperatures, depending on the mass of the two fluids BUT because the air passing over the intercooler is for the most part infinite compared to the air in the intake charge, we can approximate that the air would reach ambient temperature, thus making the intercooler 100% efficient. I dont think any of the above is in question but i spelled it out for the sake of those who arent geeks.

Now you're hypothesizing that due to a pressure loss inside the intercooler, the intake charge expands and its temperature decreases, making the intake charge cooler than ambient.

My question to you is: If you have an intercooler that is SO efficient that it can transfer heat at will, and if the nature of intercoolers is to pull the intake temp towards ambient, why wouldnt the cooler intake temp actually cool the ambient air passing over the intercooler? Does your intercooler somehow only transfer heat in one direction?

 

Twiddling thumbs


waiting for the answer

 

my head hurts

 

I think the good Dr. O has just the prescription coming for us: third party data . Theory can only go so far. . Cheers on this fine 23 hour day of ours, everyone!

 

First, I'm not hypothesizing that a pressure loss will result in a drop in temperature. It will happen without a doubt. Go play with a can of compressed air and write up a report on your findings. Second, I never said anything about a pressure loss inside the intercooler except where inside involves the end caps. In most cases the drop in both will occur as the air exits the intercooler proper. It does not need to be instantaneous in heat transfer, as long as the air is as cool as possible by the end of the operational area of the intercooler, i.e. where the fins end. It's obvious that there will be a gradient established. If you hadn't already figured it out, that's why a bigger one typically works better. Your assumption that it needs be instantaneous is, well, a stupid one. At least you know what thermal equilibrium is. Mostly.

And since you are being SO nice about it, I'll be nice and answer your question. An intercooler is built to maximize the surface are of contact between the charge air and the ambient air. The end caps and intake horns are, not surpisingly, not. So where you would likely achieve the drop in pressure and temperature occurs outside of the intercooler's operating area where heat transfer will be least efficient.

If you'd stop to think about it for a minute, you'd make some connections here. I know you are historically fond of the "I'm smarter than you" game, and I know you are a pretty intelligent fellow, so at this point I can only assume you are arguing for arguments sake. As I've said, if you can have an intercooler that is 100% efficient at cooling the air passing through it, it will be ambient temperature on exit. If you have a pressure drop, and it should be fairly obvious that it is unlikely that the pressure drop will occur in the unchanging internal volume of the active area, than it will occur as the air enters into the end and horn on it's way to the manifold. After you leave the operational turbolator laden area, you have a much smaller surface area to draw temperature away from either the charge volume or the ambient air. Not to mention the fact that not a large volume, typically, of ambient air will pass over the horns, so the rate of heat transfer in either direction is slowed by design.

So to answer your questions directly. By design, no. That's why you use a dirverter. And of course it does, from hotter to cooler.

Next?

 

touche'

 

This is like a dance-off. Except without the dancing, the hot girls, and the dry humping and with science/car tech info instead. Exactly like a dance-off.

 

There are girls here, we're just quiet.


Back to being male... males.


(oh, and bring on the testing results, kthnx)

 

im with him.,. enough bs and more numbers.

 

ok...no more "BS"...silence everyone...

 

BS BS BS BS

 

that bs was almost believable! lol

 

If you guys want more useless information...I'm more than happy to oblige...

-I wiped my wheels today
-hit three spring bugs while driving
-used 15 kleenex to wipe snot off my 2 year old nose
-drove 115 mile going nowhere in my Mini
-I'm down to one mark on the gas tank
-I think my right sinus is infected and my right ear is ringing because of that
-I went to the bathroom...

 

Your nose is only two years old?

Steve

 

Ya beat me to it

 

or number two! Enquiring minds want to know!

Matt

 

1.73...oooooo disgusting want a sample?

I do have a two year old nose...it's attached to a poopy diaper

 

Wow, I didn't think I'd be so disgusted when Matt asked the question.

 

I was taking care of Alison (just turned 16 months) yesterday. When she doesn't think it's time to change her diaper, she fights it like you wouldn't believe. Needless to say, yesterday I was wiping baby poo off of her feet, fingers and every other part that could get into the mess. Yuck!

Matt

That BS.... Baby Sh*t!

 

Ahh...what a wonderful gift...I know how you feel