M7 DFIC

Any thoughts? Is the scoop that is included the ram intake? or a different one?

 

I'm pretty sure it's the ram one....not the extreme one.

And in terms of what i think. It looks promising...a very nice idea and it appears to be well carried out

 

Wasn't the idea brought up by Alta first..??

Hm. It seems to be really similar to what alta talked about a while ago..
maybe i'm wrong..

 

yup, there is a big thread somewhere on NAM if im not mistaken. its not something they really invented for themselves, so it really shouldnt be a worry. This is essentially just a FMIC placed on top of the engine....

 

Weren't the test results of the Alta unit less than "inspiring?"

 

...and im sure that M7 had the Patent first, hence why alta no longer speak about this...but i could be wrong....

And i also believe it will be the RAM scoop supplied

Si

 

You are absolutely correct about this. M7 had been developing this for a long while, since last year if I remember correctly. And, that and the fact that Alta's didn't increase efficiency is why Alta stopped work, I would guess.

About the Alta unit, it was not allowing much air through, or so I hear. The M7 piece apparently has much larger/freer flowing air passages. I have heard of AMAZING efficiency figures on this piece- upwards of 80% in testing, people say. I can't wait to budget this in!

 

For comparison's sake, look at the Alta IC prototype and compare it to the M7:
Alta, bottom right, from Dr. O's thread:




Look at the DISH on that M7 core . The vanes are much smaller, too, as you can see. SWEET!

 

This is correct, Peter did mention something about the "patent" back in Jan
"Msfitoy" and "JS" said that it's a slightly different RAI scoop (been modified to fit the DFIC (direct flow intercooler) I have not seen it

 

It's about time they posted this thing!
Looks even better than I thought! The theory behind the way this IC is configured can't be argued compared to what's on the MINI now.
As long as the efficiency is there it should be a great improvement.
Hopefully Randy will chime in about how it "feels" on his car.

 

The scoop is the same...but different. The opening looks the same, but it "funnels" down to direct air straight into the I/C.
Very nice unit!!
Jim (@ AMVIV)

 

With the cost being that high, I would like to see the numbers to justify paying that much for an I/C. The idea is awesome and looks to be a nice unit, but I would love to see flow numbers etc to justify the huge cost.

Garrett

 

Has the thermal efficiency and pressure loss data been posted anywhere yet?

 

Looks intriguing...I'm going to have to do something to improve the summer performance of intercooler, be it a larger intercooler, a water sprayer or both. Dallas summers are not kind to the MCS.

 

that high? Huh?

it includes a 200 dollar scoop. So the IC itself is 700 essentially (you need the scoop, but the scoop is a nice bonus to a good price.

look at other normal shaped IC's prices for the mini (neither come with scoops)

Alta: $739
Forge: $729

So the price really isnt that high relative to what you get and the other normal intercoolers on the market for the mini

 

there are only two threads....do you see it? j/k

 

rallymini is right, getting the scoop as part of the unit makes it very reasonable as far as intercoolers go. you can't hardly buy a scoop for $200 these days, at least not one that improves anthing. this scoop is different from their other scoops and perfectly matches the intercooler. there isn't anything on the market that fits together as seemless. looking in from the outside, there are absolutely no interferences in the airflow whatsoever. i've been researching intercoolers, so i can upgrade before summer hits here in the desert and after seeing this one this weekend at amviv, it seems to be the best available. i'm anxiously awaiting for feedback as soon as they deliver the first batch to customers.

 

Sweeeett!!
If its as functional as it is pretty I'm in for sure. Has anyone ordered one yet? Would like to here if there are any pros and cons from guys like me rather than just Vendor info.

Sick product though M7...especially with the coating, polishing and hood scoop options.

Seann

 

looks like a very good deal compared to the other ICs on the market right now. especially if the efficiency numbers are up there too. this could possibly help with some of the detonation issues we've been having on the west coast. can't wait to hear the reviews once some owners get this setup and start logging some data.

nice work Peter.

 

When I ment high, I meant for performance wise. The other bigger IC that are offered for the mini I do not believe in them. You are causing less room to be had for air to get trapped into the scoop. That is my opinion. If the flow numbers, temp. numbers etc look good for this unit, then we might have a good IC replacement. Other then that, i think the stock IC is just as good. I just wish a front mount would not cost so much money.

Garrett

 

2006 will be an incredible year for M7. yay for cool new parts! you know there is more to come!

 

Well i think if you are looking for great bang/buck with an intercooler that is equal to things with a pulley....you just arent gonna find it. I would place intercooler in the upper part of the tuning...in that you start having to pay way more to get each horse out of the car.

 

Thinking about gettin rid of that grs you let me know

 

I understand that, but I still do not think the bigger IC is even worth the money. My reasons, you loose way to much volume in the scoop for it to be efficient enough to cool the air down. Eric at Helix and I had this discussion and he agreed with me. But for the new IC, this could be completely different and would love to see some numbers and data in general. I think this can have some potential, just concerned with a few things though. M7 puts out great products and I am glade to see a company to offer such great quality in products for the mini!

- Garrett

 

You know..this is very much like the 19% pulley discussion...
Every conservative person on here says that "on paper" it just wont make power..
Well the 19% works.
The intercoolers work too.
Also, dynoing it is not going to show a big difference because of inadequate "simulated air flow". If you want to see numbers get a water-to-air, most consistent way you could go. But you can't tell me that if your going down the track at 115 that your stock intercooler is going to be cooling the same as that m7 or alta or forge or GRS. Especially since the m7 will have the scoop to direct air striaght through the core.