To answer a few questions, yes the included scoop is the ram air scoop. It is slightly different to accomodate a diverter designed to work with the DFIC.

Alta realeased their version first, but that doesn't mean they were developing it first. I can't say either way, though, but I have the file traffic with dates to prove we've been working long and hard on this one, and I hope it shows!

As stated, it comes with built in probe points, so this should make it plenty easy for anyone and everyone to add boost and temperature monitors, so plenty of data will show up, I can assure you!

 

for what it is worth, this piece has moved up high on my list...... I do want to see some numbers but I am pretty sure that it is going to be great. As far as the current Alta...... it was a huge improvement in my car when I installed it.... You can't dyno these things unless you are in a wind tunnel...... there is no doubt it made a nice increase in power here in GA especially in the summer

 

The alta unit wasn't tested on a dyno, right? It was tested with probes and whatnot for pressure and air density?

 

yes..... but my comment is more to the people who look to the dyno God..... how do you relate pressure and temps to whp?

 

That's not a "slightly" modified Ram Intake...It is completely new...ask JS

 

Does it look similar to the ram intake?

 

Well, by slightly modified, I meant it looks the same form the outside. Of course, that's what I was told.

 

The aperture is asymetrically shaped frontal wise to maximise air flow into the IC only. This allows the greater intake volume as mandated by the new IC design. From the side, it looks much the same...No mistake this baby is raming air big time when coming at you

Think of DFIC as a front mounted IC on top of the motor.

Will...did you get my email?

 

Ow...


Yes, I'm saving off the files now.

 

Just got back from a great time at AMVIV and I see there is a bit of interest in one of our new items. Let me see if i can answer a few questions and post a few snap shots.

1/ Number will be coming shortly .The beta unit is presently with one of our race teams for their input and will be sent back later this week.Additionally NAM"S own DR. Obnoxious will be giving it a complete run thru and then posting his findings . We feel that the Dr. has the proper testing methods and experience and hope you all agree with us.


2/ The scoop is completely new but does retain a lot of the look of the Ram Air Scoop. We feel shortly we will be referred to as Scoops our us if we ad any more to the line up. As you can see in the snap shots the scoop is shaped to direct the flow of air into the intercooler. The lower divert or plate and foam sealing strips included in the package insure an almost completely sealed intake path.

I hope this may answer some of your questions and as soon as my ears stop ringing ( damn my car is loud ) and I take a shower I will be back online to maybe answer a few more.

Randy
M7 Tuning


P.S please excuse the quality of the photos and the dead bugs I just took a few quick ones for you.

 

Yay Randy...how did it feel? Tell us more about the show response...

 

thanks Randy, the scoop does look to funnel the air directly to the IC. I'm glad you guys decided to incorporate the scoop into the equation with the new IC. Can't wait to see the temp deltas from Dr. O's review.

 

The new intake is not an option...it HAS to be part of the system...

 

The show responce was VERY positive Thanks to everyone for that. The common thread was " why wasn't it that way in the first place " and we agree. It makes the most sence on so many levels.

Randy
M7 Tuning

 

AMVIV was in one word fantastic... We made many new friends, and I also
Have to thank the guy's and Gal's that made the whole affair possible, and in
One word a rousing success.....Thank you.

The DFIC was originally a drawing on a wet shower door at my very good friend Tony B's house...and yes I believe he was naked when he had the epiphany..
More then eight month's later and hundreds of drawings,CFD maps, patent-
Papers and nightly calls to my bud Tony.
A prototype unit was made to test its mettle, that's when the test ports where conceived; this will give you the MINI owner an unprecedented access
To measure boost or temperatures, pre or post IC core....very convenient.

As the core is resting less then an inch from hot engine parts, the decision was to add a layer of ceramics preventing heat soak of the core. It's costly to apply, so we made it an option ($75). As for performance I will let Maxmini
(Randy) tell you all about it as the unit is resting on his MINI. Later this week
You will see all the CFD maps and pre-post #'s.

Sincerely

peter
Team M7

 

Looked very nice in Vegas. It seemed to fit very well. Can't wait for some numbers.

 

Wow when will they be available?

 

Very nice.
2 thoughts.
An air gap between the bottom of the IC and the ceramic coating will be more effective
See that nice flat spot right below the IC? A small duct there channeling air below the IC would help heat soak once in motion and I doubt seriously you'll lose any flow into the IC.

I'd like to see if you've done anything on the hood itself. Something to channel the exit air so it doesn't just blow into the sound proofing mat and swirl around.

Keep up the surprises.

 

Thank you, and believe me there's more special surprises behind door #2

The final diverter (in production) is designed to spray a fine curtain of pressurized cool air between the core and the engine.
We have many miles of serious testing on this unit and no adverse turbulence
hooking in to the sound proofing. With that said I will look at the possibillity
of adding a strip of aluminum tape at the edge of the sound proofing....

As for exit air, we have found the engine compartment very cool which the
Turbo guy's will appreciate greatly.

peter
Team M7
562-608-8123

 

anyone who wants to get rid of their grs to get an m7 pm me

 

Man, I'm so glad to see this baby come to life!!!

For those who have seen the movie "Close Encounters of the 3rd Kind", if you remember the scences where Richard Dryfus was obsessed with trying to create a vision that he had (Devlis Tower I believe), that's how I felt for a while as I was being consumed during my IC/scoop testing...

As Peter said, from the shower door, to some paper, and then carboard... I just felt that this was worthy of pursuit and I couldn't think of anyone better than M7 to take this idea to the next level, and get it to market for us!

Many positives have been mentioned already, and others alluded to as well. One that I have not heard yet, and that I personally like, is that this unit, like the stocker, does not cover the spark plugs. For those of us who need to(known issue) or simply like to check plugs often, dorking-around with the IC boots gets to be a drag after a while. I suppose this will be minor to some folks, but I'm pretty happy that I won't be needing to remove/install my IC every couple or so months. So... YES, I'll be parting with my improved GRS (see earlier thread for details) with M7 Extreme Scoop .

Back to the DFIC... The pre & post bungs are simply brilliant, and have several practical uses. For those who want to run a boost gauge, finally access is no longer an issue or complicated affair! The optional ceramic coating on the bottom is another slick idea, and the incorporated H20 sprayer (at a later time) will be an added plus come the hot days of Summer, not to mention the cooler engine bay in general...

Would have chimmed in earlier guys, but I've had computer issues on/off most of the weekend . As a reminder, keep your anti-virus definitions current, as well as your Windows Updates (for PC users)...

 

What TonyB said regarding the IC and spark plugs very very good news!! Another great reason for me to ditch my GRS and go for the DFIC!! So who else is interested in a slightly modified GRS IC?!?

John

 

johnd u noe im interested

 

I think there's a line started already Bob. I will have it at the Dragon...along with AGS V3, USS, and the Samtrack/M7 side vent panels...Look for the XunSu/M7 PS Mini

 

First off, I'm happy to test this exactly the same way I did the Alta, stock and coated units. The data set will be nice.

And the Alta was a prototype, this is much closer to the released product.
Look in Alta's thread, and they too are going ahead with the unit.
Alta's prototype didn't have as good thermal efficiency as the stock, but had lower pressure drop, and did create more charge denesity and power.
The testing was done with a G-Tech accelerometer, not a dyno, but did get real-world air flow conditions.
Pressure drops were measured vs RPM with no load.
I'm not saying this as an edorsment or a slam to Alta's unit, just correcting some errors posted earlier in the thread.

With all that, the M7 unit looks nice, I saw it at AMVIV. When they have an extra unit and I have all my diagnostics back, I'll put it through the paces and let people know what I find.

Matt