Drivetrain New Larger Alta Intercooler!!!
Originally Posted by Bahamabart
Andy's last post - he said he was going out for drive
. THAT was yesterday!
So were is he?
Did he come home last night or is he still out there? 
So were is he?
Did he come home last night or is he still out there? 
I have posted several times since installing the IC, including post #127 and several times today.
Originally Posted by ingsoc
BTW, didn't Alta give the IC to Andy because they _knew_ he would produce quick results? 

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Update: No data yet.
Forecast: Data some time.
Originally Posted by ingsoc
I did notice that it's a lot more civil here right now! Who'd a thunk it?

BTW, didn't Alta give the IC to Andy because they _knew_ he would produce quick results?

BTW, didn't Alta give the IC to Andy because they _knew_ he would produce quick results?

Only posting because this thread was dead a while back anyway...
Originally Posted by andy@ross-tech.com
Back on topic, I hope to get a chance to do some preliminary testing this weekend. 
Originally Posted by andy@ross-tech.com
I have posted several times since installing the IC, including post #127 and several times today.Did you talk to Alta about why they sent the IC to me? I don't remember ever promising anyone quick results.
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Update: No data yet.
Forecast: Data some time.
. Didn't you know at that point [or when arranging to take the IC from Alta] that you "didn't have the probes?" You even indicated you would test it this weekend. Anyways, see post 159- I did not say "Didn't Andy"- I said "Didn't Alta."
Originally Posted by JeffS
I think Andy's probably still rolling on the floor laughing at your posts in the other thread trying to figure out how to calculate a 13% difference...
Only posting because this thread was dead a while back anyway...
Only posting because this thread was dead a while back anyway...
Andy didn't promise to post any results.
Originally Posted by andy@ross-tech.com
I have in my possession; my stock intercooler, a current Alta top mount, and the new prototype Alta intercooler. I'll test all three in the same environment and send my results to Alta to do what they want with them. It would be a good idea to repeat the test in other conditions hot weather as well, but as you can see from the testing that I did, outside temp has very little impact on intercooler efficiency compared to other factors like road speed, engine speed, etc.
I never said anything about Andy promising. From Alta, post 35:
Now, reconsider what I wrote. "Didn't Alta..."
Originally Posted by ALTA2
The prototype is shipping tomorrow to a very well known NAM enthusiest that will be giving us some data right away. It maybe good, it maybe bad, it maybe the same as our TMIC. Whatever it is the outcome will be posted here on NAM for all to see. Nothing to hide, nothing to loose.
Originally Posted by andy@ross-tech.com
I have posted several times since installing the IC, including post #127 and several times today.Did you talk to Alta about why they sent the IC to me? I don't remember ever promising anyone quick results.
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Update: No data yet.
Forecast: Data some time.
I must have skipped a page. Andy, any "noise" changes w/ the new IC during your initial drive?
Nope, no real noise changes, possibly a slight increase in engine sound but that may just be due to the removal of the black plastic shroud from the underside of the hoodscoop - nothing obtrusive or obnoxious.
Originally Posted by Bahamabart
I must have skipped a page. Andy, any "noise" changes w/ the new IC during your initial drive?
Please...
i beg those (any and all) involved to keep this thread from becoming another pi$$ing match with words.
maybe i have not been around long enough to know all the feuds, but can this please stay somewhat on topic: New Larger Alta Intercooler!!!
maybe it's me...but i would prefer to read 2 pages about the product as opposed to 6 pages of people taking sideways jabs at each other....what are we, carbureted push rod users?!?
(puts soap box away....)
maybe i have not been around long enough to know all the feuds, but can this please stay somewhat on topic: New Larger Alta Intercooler!!!
maybe it's me...but i would prefer to read 2 pages about the product as opposed to 6 pages of people taking sideways jabs at each other....what are we, carbureted push rod users?!?
(puts soap box away....)
I think we all know that. Nothing against him but it would be nice to stay on topic a little bit more. It's not him. I think everyone is really excited about the new IC. Can't wait to see M7's new unit and their new other products.
I couldn't read that...
Originally Posted by Veni_Vidi_Vici
Or this:
Honey........ (he says to his wife....)

And yes, I am a pushrod user too, but the carb went away on that one. I have another one that has a carb but no pushrods....
Also, getting time and tools to do comprehensive testing is a real pain. I think Alta sent it to Andy to get independant results. I've got lots to test, but until I have more time, and some dry roads, I won't be testing anything!
Joker, I feel for ya. My spelling pretty much sucks, and I rarely get nailed for it. Thanks to all for letting me slide.... Just call me rap-master O!
roll w/the punches!!
^^funny....Andy!!!!!!! i get it ,cute pic sir !!
Joker, I feel for ya. My spelling pretty much sucks, and I rarely get nailed for it. Thanks to all for letting me slide.... Just call me rap-master O!
its all g00d in the neighborhood
, no need to feel for me!! rap master O .
i dont do it cuz i dont know how to spell, i jus do it fer fun, out of habit!!
its the way i roll..........
Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
Joker, I feel for ya. My spelling pretty much sucks, and I rarely get nailed for it. Thanks to all for letting me slide.... Just call me rap-master O!
, no need to feel for me!! rap master O .i dont do it cuz i dont know how to spell, i jus do it fer fun, out of habit!!
its the way i roll..........
Originally Posted by joker
i jus do it fer fun



I'm just wonderin...
Originally Posted by joker
^^funny....Andy!!!!!!! i get it ,cute pic sir !!
its all g00d in the neighborhood
, no need to feel for me!! rap master O .
i dont do it cuz i dont know how to spell, i jus do it fer fun, out of habit!!
its the way i roll..........
its all g00d in the neighborhood
, no need to feel for me!! rap master O .i dont do it cuz i dont know how to spell, i jus do it fer fun, out of habit!!
its the way i roll..........

Matt
Originally Posted by andy@ross-tech.com
Thanks to these, I got all of the temp probes installed tonight:



Needless to say, I won't be doing any testing tonight.




Needless to say, I won't be doing any testing tonight.

Andy, respectfully, please double check this morning after a cup of coffee exactly where you installed those probes last night.
Once confirmed that they are where intended - GO FOR IT, and have fun.
Originally Posted by Bahamabart
Andy, respectfully, please double check this morning after a cup of coffee exactly where you installed those probes last night.
Once confirmed that they are where intended - GO FOR IT, and have fun.
Once confirmed that they are where intended - GO FOR IT, and have fun.
FWIW, the temp probes are located:
1) Inside the rubber intake elbow, just upstream of the throttle body.
2) Inside the passenger side rubber intercooler coupler (hot side)
3) Inside the driver side rubber intercooler coupler (cool side)
I use the factory outside temp sensor for ambient readings (located in the bumper, clipped to the back of the fake mesh part of the lower opening). I've found that its readings are close enough to reality to not throw off the calculations much. My view looks like this but with the additional intake air temp gauge added just to the right of the wheel.
Originally Posted by andy@ross-tech.com
I checked ... they are all in the right places.
FWIW, the temp probes are located:
1) Inside the rubber intake elbow, just upstream of the throttle body.
2) Inside the passenger side rubber intercooler coupler (hot side)
3) Inside the driver side rubber intercooler coupler (cool side)
I use the factory outside temp sensor for ambient readings (located in the bumper, clipped to the back of the fake mesh part of the lower opening). I've found that its readings are close enough to reality to not throw off the calculations much. My view looks like this but with the additional intake air temp gauge added just to the right of the wheel.
FWIW, the temp probes are located:
1) Inside the rubber intake elbow, just upstream of the throttle body.
2) Inside the passenger side rubber intercooler coupler (hot side)
3) Inside the driver side rubber intercooler coupler (cool side)
I use the factory outside temp sensor for ambient readings (located in the bumper, clipped to the back of the fake mesh part of the lower opening). I've found that its readings are close enough to reality to not throw off the calculations much. My view looks like this but with the additional intake air temp gauge added just to the right of the wheel.
Temperature sensors do not require air flow through them to function. The probes are inside the rubber boots. The wiring is outside.
Originally Posted by ingsoc
How are you not losing pressure through the rubber IC boots with the bungs in place? Under 15 psi or so, you're certain to get distension of the rubber... I'm curious to hear your opinion. 





