Drivetrain Crank pulley=meh
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Crank pulley=meh
It just didn't have the impact on me as i would've imagined..
boost is there... by my readings at about 5-6k rpm i get about 1.2-1.3 bar, before my peak was a bit below 1.1 with the 15%
throttle response has improved.... not much but at least noticeable
but overall i dont feel the AMAZING increase alot of you raved about, i guess i got so used to the 15% by now the slight increase isn't that noticeable
bottom line is that... for me who's gotten so used to the 15% by now it is merely a driveability upgrade... nothing more...
3 out of 5
if you ask me, stick with a 17% if you want the 17%'s power without the 'possible catastrophic failure' that alot of people here have claimed with this mod
my old pulley is sitting on my shelf.. the moment any rough shakes i get at idle im throwing the stocker back on, even randy re-assured me that nothing's gonna happen i aint taking any chances
boost is there... by my readings at about 5-6k rpm i get about 1.2-1.3 bar, before my peak was a bit below 1.1 with the 15%
throttle response has improved.... not much but at least noticeable
but overall i dont feel the AMAZING increase alot of you raved about, i guess i got so used to the 15% by now the slight increase isn't that noticeable
bottom line is that... for me who's gotten so used to the 15% by now it is merely a driveability upgrade... nothing more...
3 out of 5
if you ask me, stick with a 17% if you want the 17%'s power without the 'possible catastrophic failure' that alot of people here have claimed with this mod
my old pulley is sitting on my shelf.. the moment any rough shakes i get at idle im throwing the stocker back on, even randy re-assured me that nothing's gonna happen i aint taking any chances
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Did you get the stock sized pulley or the +2% pulley? What brand?
I would agree that the extra power isn't as dramatic as when I first added the -15% pulley on the SC... but it is indeed there. I notice more mid-range punch and I can definitely tell there is less drag on the engine.
Considering the low cost of the crank pulley, do you not feel that this was worth it? (Presuming that you never have any negative issues with it.)
I would agree that the extra power isn't as dramatic as when I first added the -15% pulley on the SC... but it is indeed there. I notice more mid-range punch and I can definitely tell there is less drag on the engine.
Considering the low cost of the crank pulley, do you not feel that this was worth it? (Presuming that you never have any negative issues with it.)
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Originally Posted by F15EWeapon
Did you get the stock sized pulley or the +2% pulley? What brand?
I would agree that the extra power isn't as dramatic as when I first added the -15% pulley on the SC... but it is indeed there. I notice more mid-range punch and I can definitely tell there is less drag on the engine.
Considering the low cost of the crank pulley, do you not feel that this was worth it? (Presuming that you never have any negative issues with it.)
I would agree that the extra power isn't as dramatic as when I first added the -15% pulley on the SC... but it is indeed there. I notice more mid-range punch and I can definitely tell there is less drag on the engine.
Considering the low cost of the crank pulley, do you not feel that this was worth it? (Presuming that you never have any negative issues with it.)
for 150 bucks... it is worth it... but in the same time, even the so called 'catastrophic failures' the few claim will happen or might happen has me a bit worried and slightly defensive about this product
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I have a 15% and a 0%crank and the difference is dramatic. Maybe with a 17% the boost is so great that the lightened crank doesn't make that much of a difference? But then again most of our writings here can be our own opinion based on our car and our driving style eh? My car is a MCSa and the lightweight crank made a difference I noticed faster then when I put on the 15% supercharger pulley.
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Sorry, but I completely disagree on your assessment of the pulley! I got mine done last Friday, and it's SWEET! I got the M7 2%. It fit well, and losing that weight was instantly noticeable. The car is more manageable and smooth at lower rpms! Gear engagement and rolling from a stop and up hills is really a good bit easier. My gas mileage even went up 2-3 mpg, at least. And, I've got a good amount more power!
The only thing I can think of is maybe you need injectors? I don't know if you have them or not, but running 17% you could prolly use some more fuel up high. I run 400 cc injectors in a full Cosworth/M7 S. Adding the pulley [now effectively 18.x% pulley on the SC] made a really sweet difference in the character of the car. More power all the way up my powerband!
The only thing I can think of is maybe you need injectors? I don't know if you have them or not, but running 17% you could prolly use some more fuel up high. I run 400 cc injectors in a full Cosworth/M7 S. Adding the pulley [now effectively 18.x% pulley on the SC] made a really sweet difference in the character of the car. More power all the way up my powerband!
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Originally Posted by skuzy
guys which would be the better option??
15% + 2% OR
17% and 0% ??
15% + 2% OR
17% and 0% ??
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Originally Posted by skuzy
guys which would be the better option??
15% + 2% OR
17% and 0% ??
15% + 2% OR
17% and 0% ??
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ok let's clear this up.. seems a few people are a bit confused!
i got a 15% alta pulley about a year and a half ago.. i regularly track the car, autox the car.. etc... u name it ive probably done it... and now i got a 2% alta crank pulley
im not slamming the 2%... there is a noticeable throttle response improvement, as well as spool up, the boost reading confirms im getting effectively a 17% boost level of 1.2-1.3 bar (about 18 psi)
yet in the same time, i do not feel that it is another 'ultimate' mod that everyone proclaims it to be... it is a worthy addition, i guess being a bit defensive about it also dont help it any
i got a 15% alta pulley about a year and a half ago.. i regularly track the car, autox the car.. etc... u name it ive probably done it... and now i got a 2% alta crank pulley
im not slamming the 2%... there is a noticeable throttle response improvement, as well as spool up, the boost reading confirms im getting effectively a 17% boost level of 1.2-1.3 bar (about 18 psi)
yet in the same time, i do not feel that it is another 'ultimate' mod that everyone proclaims it to be... it is a worthy addition, i guess being a bit defensive about it also dont help it any
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The 17.3 was my error.
It is 16.67 if you do not consider the effect of belt thickness.
If you do not consider the effect of belt thickness, a 17% pulley
overdrives the SC by 20.48%. 15 + 2 overdrives the SC by 20.00%.
If you DO consider the effect of belt thickness, a 17% pulley
overdrives the SC by 19.34%. 15 + 2 overdrives the SC by 18.97%.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...5&postcount=17
It is 16.67 if you do not consider the effect of belt thickness.
If you do not consider the effect of belt thickness, a 17% pulley
overdrives the SC by 20.48%. 15 + 2 overdrives the SC by 20.00%.
If you DO consider the effect of belt thickness, a 17% pulley
overdrives the SC by 19.34%. 15 + 2 overdrives the SC by 18.97%.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...5&postcount=17
Originally Posted by ingsoc
More like 17.3, I believe.
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I have a 15% Alta that should be in this week, and I am fighting with the dealer to replace what seems to be a failing harmonic balancer. I am very close to just getting the Alta 2% crank pulley and calling it a <fun> day! I have not heard of any negative impacts from the crank pulley, and have seen several sources quote that BMW attests the car didn't need a harmonic balancer, it there to make the engine idle smoother. Sooo, the dealer response today will determine my next steps...
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Originally Posted by ltz_mtr
I have a 15% Alta that should be in this week, and I am fighting with the dealer to replace what seems to be a failing harmonic balancer. I am very close to just getting the Alta 2% crank pulley and calling it a <fun> day! I have not heard of any negative impacts from the crank pulley, and have seen several sources quote that BMW attests the car didn't need a harmonic balancer, it there to make the engine idle smoother. Sooo, the dealer response today will determine my next steps...
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It's the rattle on hard acceleration (between 3k and 4.5k RPM) that emanates from the front right side of the car. There are several threads here (this being a couple of them)
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=18230
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=50647
At any rate, mine fits the description to the T, and my conversation this morning is also on the money (we can't hear anything, there's nothing wrong, etc.). So, I'll deal with it myself and assuming the problem goes away, make sure the GM of the dealership knows I had to cure it myself.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=18230
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=50647
At any rate, mine fits the description to the T, and my conversation this morning is also on the money (we can't hear anything, there's nothing wrong, etc.). So, I'll deal with it myself and assuming the problem goes away, make sure the GM of the dealership knows I had to cure it myself.
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Originally Posted by Eric_Rowland
What are your before and after MPG numbers? Tough to believe a few pounds off the crank (AND extra boost) would increase your MPG by over 10%! Was your first tank after the crank all downhill?
Anyways, I made it about 30 miles further [even after having a little fun!] on my tank before running close enough to empty. That's about 2.5 mpg more. Since making that trip, these past few days, I've noticed that mileage is still up. I guess it's just because of the lowered rotating mass. The car sure revs easier. Proof positive, here's a video:
www.teammightyminiz.com/~ingsoc/DSCN0233.avi
edit: The video should show an approximation of how smooth my low-rpm power curve is. Notice, there's hardly any lag down low. It was not that way before the new crank pulley. I feel bad cause I didn't think to do a 'before' video. grr.
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Originally Posted by WP4LDU
Hello everyone!!
I have an Alta 15% pulley and my next mod will be to add an Alta 2% Crank Pulley. My question is: install the 2% Crank or replace my Alta 15% pulley for an Alta 17% pulley and forget it about the crank pulley and stay stock on the Crank? Henry
I have an Alta 15% pulley and my next mod will be to add an Alta 2% Crank Pulley. My question is: install the 2% Crank or replace my Alta 15% pulley for an Alta 17% pulley and forget it about the crank pulley and stay stock on the Crank? Henry
The reason we came out with a 2% pulley is that when coupled with our 16 % or anyone elses 15% you are improving the life and performace of the belt verses one smaller pulley. You have a bigger turn for the belt to make which will help to keep the slipage/ temps down . Additionally it makes for a better fit with a stock sized belt as it takes up some of the slack when going to the smaller SC pulley.
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