Sounds like a good plan to me Doug. I'm sure Abacus sure won't mind back to back installs either. I'm figuring on 2 - 2.5 hours worth of install. Randy typically charges an hour for a standard exhaust, I figure another hour or so for running the switch.

As far as earlier stuff about figher jet style switches... no thanks. Spent enough time in the cockpit to enjoy something more user friendly. My vote (if anyone cares) is for the un-used switch on the MFSW (I have an '03 2 spoke design) or the phone button on the newer units. I can't remember where, but obehave spyed out a proper relay for use for this button somewhere. Even if Randy doesn't use that set-up, a switch is a switch... nothing stopping me from making it work that way right?

Combine that with some Johan-Built gauge pods and gauges... we'll be well on our way to badassdom.

 

I think Rob (robsilvermini) posted about the switch originally. Don't remember now

Maybe we can get Johan there as well. He is talking about doing some testing using my HDI.

 

Question! Does the WMS exhaust have one tip or two? I've seen several photo's of Randy's car with what appears to be at least a 3" pipe and only one exhaust tip. Actually, it didn't even look like a tip, but just the 3" pipe extending back?

-Cody

 

2 Tips.

 

Well, I would've preferred a toggle on our toggle boards, but somebody from Webb said it wasn't possible and that the most likely position would be by the hand brake. Am I the only person that thinks a switch like that would be cool?

 

You can use a toggle on the toggle bank by using one of the windows-up circuits (Ian Cull's or MCAW). Both have a feature to operate a garage door opener from a toggle. Just hook it up to operate a relay instead.

You can also utilize the unused phone button on a 3-spoke steering wheel. mikeythemini of newministuff.com sells a circuit that causes the button to operate a relay. I have it hooked up to toggle on-demand viewing of my OEM rear view camera. See post #26 in this thread: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=53297

 

Mine is mounted in a "not-so-cool" place on the left side of the wheel......

The "switches" are not relay types they can not handle power...... you could run a line to a relay etc......

 

So... anyone else we can say is truely buying a WMS system?

Just thought I'd bump this small little thread ttt so we can keep talking about this shiny exhaust we all would have, if it were free.

 

I am definitely getting one......not to speak for WMS but I can say that parts are in and fabrication has begun there should be a trickle of units and then a flow.......get your orders in...... I do not work for nor derive any $ from this venture... I just think it is cool

 

I'm driving out to Randy's this weekend for a whole bunch of stuff, including the exhaust system

WMS Ported manifold/supercharge runners
WMS Throttle body
WMS Head
Milltek header
WMS Exhaust
WMS short shift
Helix 's new Bosch 380cc injectors

A few other odds and ends also. I had Randy's FMIC which didn't work out so I'm waiting on more results on the M7 DFIC before I upgrade that.
My sig is a little premature!!

 

very similar to my car

very similar to my car

 

We'll compare notes next week

 

Any word on the switch? That is, when it'll be shipping with all the exhaust systems?

 

Bruce...you should have waited for the Chicago Pulley Party..then we could have watched all those goodies going on!!! I am jealous for sure! The shop is very cool and I hope everything works great. Keep us all posted as to the outcome and say Hello to Randy, Brian and all in Colorado. Safe travels!!

Will you visit the Chicago Party with the updates? Thanks!

 

Absolutely!!!

This was too much to do at the PP or would have had it all done there.

We are planning on dynoing the car before and after also so we can see what the delta is.

 

hey guys, what header was the car running in that WMS exhaust video clip?

 

so where does this exhaust stand in production? and spider..i saw something about mounting that toggle in place of the unused phone button? i always wanted to find a use for that.

 

Was just wondering as I've been lurking on the sidelines of this thread for awhile now ... And I believe I saw someone mention this "issue" before. In California is it legal (ie; will an MCS pass CA smog w/a switched exhaust) if you have an inline switch in the exhuast system as in the WMS design. I'm currently very interested in what WMS has put together but a little unclear on this one point...

Anyone have any insight into this?

 

on my car, a Milltek

you can get the exhaust without a switched valve (a plate) so that it is more of a track/road system... The switch adds cost and it has been suggested that people source their own valves.

My switch is in a non optimum position on the left lower dash... looks funky but that's where it is.... I will probably make a SS panel to house it with a "fighter" style switch with a cover.

as far as the exhaust.... contact WMS they should be getting units very soon

 

In another thread, forget which one, CA law was quoted and an exhaust by-pass is illegal. Different states have different laws. They are illegal in my state too.

This is different than, for say, the Porsche sport exhaust available for older Boxster S and 997S that has a switch that just changes the tone of the exhaust but does not totally bypass the mufflers into a straight pipe.

 

what about without a switched valve?

 

Here is the MD law

"a) Mufflers.- Every motor vehicle with an internal combustion engine shall be equipped with an exhaust muffler system in good working order and in constant operation to prevent excessive or unusual noise, and no person may use a muffler cutout, bypass, or similar device on a motor vehicle on a highway."
http://198.187.128.12/maryland/lpext...s-main.htm&2.0

In least here, it would seem OK without a switch. But no muffler cutout or bypass.

Here is CA Law
"27150. (a) Every motor vehicle subject to registration shall at all
times be equipped with an adequate muffler in constant operation and
properly maintained to prevent any excessive or unusual noise, and
no muffler or exhaust system shall be equipped with a cutout, bypass,
or similar device."

http://info.sen.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displ...le=27150-27159
and further

"27150.1. No person engaged in a business that involves the selling
of motor vehicle exhaust systems, or parts thereof, including, but
not limited to, mufflers, shall offer for sale, sell, or install, a
motor vehicle exhaust system, or part thereof, including, but not
limited to, a muffler, unless it meets the regulations and standards
applicable pursuant to this article. Motor vehicle exhaust systems
or parts thereof include, but are not limited to, nonoriginal exhaust
equipment.
A violation of this section is a misdemeanor."

 

interesting, so whats the point of the switch, if the constint closed is road/track, whats the reason for the open switch? or am i just an idiot ???

 

For what it's worth.... my boost gauge has not seen 18 since I took the WMS off...... glad i don't live in CA or MD

 

ROFL ... but have you checked GA?