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Old May 6, 2005 | 02:36 PM
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Maybe Peter is not only a fine and devoted mini tuner but also a master in marketing
That's a distinct possibility!
 
Old May 6, 2005 | 02:57 PM
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It's perfectly clear why numbers were never produced. They didn't make the power claimed. Pretty simple.
Do you know that for a fact?

Speculation is not fact, so please provide your reference, or the documentation you used for your proof, if this is not speculation.
 
Old May 6, 2005 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by cheiron19
Do you know that for a fact?

Speculation is not fact, so please provide your reference, or the documentation you used for your proof, if this is not speculation.
ask JCampos.... he dyno'd it

with a 17% pulley and M7 Throttle body along with it...

that combo alone will produce about 10-12 whp..... now add the AGS

what do you have ? my guess...... 10-12whp

one quick way to prove it... have him show his dyno now before he tunes the Unichip....

believe me.... if he busted 200whp like he said he would do he would have posted it. Instead we hear the sound of pins dropping
 
Old May 6, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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for the record you might want to check out the thread on a tuned mini with half of the "stuff" bust 209whp out today....


tuning does count
 
Old May 6, 2005 | 07:18 PM
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j's car doesn't have head work, cam, ported intake or apexi. For someone who likes numbers your math isn't very good.

El, I'm just setting it straight, so don't freak out.
 
Old May 6, 2005 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by El Diablito Rojo-N20Mini
ask JCampos.... he dyno'd it

with a 17% pulley and M7 Throttle body along with it...

that combo alone will produce about 10-12 whp..... now add the AGS

what do you have ? my guess...... 10-12whp

one quick way to prove it... have him show his dyno now before he tunes the Unichip....

believe me.... if he busted 200whp like he said he would do he would have posted it. Instead we hear the sound of pins dropping
I moved from a 15% to a 17%... that wont do much at all... and you said yourself, the TB is good for MAYBE 2-3 horsepower. I made much more than that. I havent posted my 200 whp yet because I havent had the unichip tuned yet. Once thats done, I will easily have 200 whp.... no head, no cams, no ported polished supercharger, no intake manifold. Cant wait to see what happens when I get all that stuff on

In the meantime, Im just playin with my new M3
 
Old May 6, 2005 | 07:40 PM
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Are you sure the m3 is any good, you haven't posted any dyno numbers
 
Old May 6, 2005 | 08:44 PM
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"free" publicity is often greatly overrated

Originally Posted by miniaq
this thread like so much of todays mainstream media news has become so worthless and yet addictive . With that being said As a vendor I would be delighted to see my product is recieving so much free publicity despite some negative comments. Maybe Peter is not only a fine and devoted mini tuner but also a master in marketing
Yeah, and I'm sure Merck "enjoyed" all of that great publicity about Vioxx, and Wendy's "enjoyed" all of that free finger-in-the-chili publicity too.

I think it is pretty clear that M7 has numbers on this AGS that are less than impressive. Does anyone truly believe he just hasn't gotten around to doing the dyno runs? There is no other reason for a "good marketer" to withold data that he undoubtedley already has in hand about a product he touted so actively.

In my mind, the case is closed on the AGS.
 
Old May 6, 2005 | 11:28 PM
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Yeah, and I'm sure Merck "enjoyed" all of that great publicity about Vioxx, and Wendy's "enjoyed" all of that free finger-in-the-chili publicity too.

I think it is pretty clear that M7 has numbers on this AGS that are less than impressive. Does anyone truly believe he just hasn't gotten around to doing the dyno runs? There is no other reason for a "good marketer" to withold data that he undoubtedley already has in hand about a product he touted so actively.

In my mind, the case is closed on the AGS.
It might be wise, and it certainly wouldn't cost much, to keep both the case... and your mind... open. Sooner or later the numbers will come out. Until then, nearly all these posts are just speculation.
 
Old May 7, 2005 | 12:58 AM
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Like I said, the AGS has been dyno proven over the HAI. Was in my car for ****s sake
 
Old May 7, 2005 | 06:32 AM
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true enough... it has been proven

it has also been proven that a 17% pulley and TB make 10-12whp
 
Old May 7, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by El Diablito Rojo-N20Mini
true enough... it has been proven

it has also been proven that a 17% pulley and TB make 10-12whp
When you go from a 15% pulley? I dont think so.
 
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