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Morning Alta [IMG]images/smilies/thumb-up.gif[/IMG]
Just wondering if you had an update on the Box Tops and / or Intake CARB approval [IMG]images/smilies/sly.gif[/IMG]
Thx [IMG]images/smilies/grin.gif[/IMG]
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Originally Posted by Drillslinger
Morning Alta [IMG]images/smilies/thumb-up.gif[/IMG]
Just wondering if you had an update on the Box Tops and / or Intake CARB approval [IMG]images/smilies/sly.gif[/IMG]
Thx [IMG]images/smilies/grin.gif[/IMG]
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Originally Posted by ALTA2
Sorry for the slow delay! Been swamped...
Larry, the top is about 3 weeks or less away. Black and siliver is a go! You are on our list, and i will make sure to let you know when they are done.
CARB will be done by SEMA this year. Summer is what we are shooting for, but SEMA for sure.
ebock,
Yes, for sure. There hasn't been any back to back tests of the CAI and JCW. But with our intake tube alone we see 5WHP with the stock intake. We see the same gain on our intake(minus the tube) So no matter what the intake tube would be a good idea. The air box i think can be improved. You will see that the filter in our kit is not paper, like the JCW, it is bigger than the JCW, and the opening for the intake tube, and the opening for the CAI part are much bigger on ours. So there should be a gain. If you didn't ahve one at all then it woud be an easy sell simply because the price.
If you are willing to do a test of back to back dyno runs, let us know, we can provide you with an intake.
Petrich,
If you have our newer endlinks which are hex shaped then, the change in length in the front isn't as critical with a lowered car. This is because we change the rod ends we use to the original ones with a higher rotation. But with the fronts, make them longer. The rears make them shorter. If you lower the car 1", adjust the links in their correct direction .5"-1".
kseckel99,
The sucking sound is perfectly normal. As is the slight whistle at part throttle. The stock Airbox is designed to be silent so when you get rid of the box, out comes the roar of the Supercharger!
Larry, the top is about 3 weeks or less away. Black and siliver is a go! You are on our list, and i will make sure to let you know when they are done.
CARB will be done by SEMA this year. Summer is what we are shooting for, but SEMA for sure.
ebock,
Yes, for sure. There hasn't been any back to back tests of the CAI and JCW. But with our intake tube alone we see 5WHP with the stock intake. We see the same gain on our intake(minus the tube) So no matter what the intake tube would be a good idea. The air box i think can be improved. You will see that the filter in our kit is not paper, like the JCW, it is bigger than the JCW, and the opening for the intake tube, and the opening for the CAI part are much bigger on ours. So there should be a gain. If you didn't ahve one at all then it woud be an easy sell simply because the price.
If you are willing to do a test of back to back dyno runs, let us know, we can provide you with an intake.
Petrich,
If you have our newer endlinks which are hex shaped then, the change in length in the front isn't as critical with a lowered car. This is because we change the rod ends we use to the original ones with a higher rotation. But with the fronts, make them longer. The rears make them shorter. If you lower the car 1", adjust the links in their correct direction .5"-1".
kseckel99,
The sucking sound is perfectly normal. As is the slight whistle at part throttle. The stock Airbox is designed to be silent so when you get rid of the box, out comes the roar of the Supercharger!
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Hmmm, summertime is here... Alta2, any news about CARB for CAI?
Originally Posted by ALTA2
Around Summer time you will start to see some info. As we get closer to summer we will keep everyone posted on the progress.
Also, is the CAI top available to really order and get yet? With the hot summer weather starting now, I think it is time for that too.
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newbs49,
Shooting for the 15th on the box tops.
VBG, and Larry,
Regarding the CARB stuff. There are some tricky things to make this happen by then. But that is still the goal. SEMA time is very close to Christmas, so that is a good back up date. But all steps are being made to make this happen. For the Mini stuff, this is #2 priorety for SEMA next to some of the new parts!!!
Keep the questions/ suggestions coming! We love to hear ideas from customers regarding something they are looking for!
Since others have asked us quite a bit lately. The Hydra is closer than ever! The ECU is all worked out, so no CEL's, cruise, and traction control works! Expect to see dyno graphs in the next couple of weeks!
We just got another MCS! Its convertable, so excpect to see a revision or a new system for all you convertable customers!
Lots of new things to come for this years SEMA! Keep an eye out!
Shooting for the 15th on the box tops.
VBG, and Larry,
Regarding the CARB stuff. There are some tricky things to make this happen by then. But that is still the goal. SEMA time is very close to Christmas, so that is a good back up date. But all steps are being made to make this happen. For the Mini stuff, this is #2 priorety for SEMA next to some of the new parts!!!
Keep the questions/ suggestions coming! We love to hear ideas from customers regarding something they are looking for!
Since others have asked us quite a bit lately. The Hydra is closer than ever! The ECU is all worked out, so no CEL's, cruise, and traction control works! Expect to see dyno graphs in the next couple of weeks!
We just got another MCS! Its convertable, so excpect to see a revision or a new system for all you convertable customers!
Lots of new things to come for this years SEMA! Keep an eye out!
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discodan,
2 piece header is not in the works BUT, you never know. If enough people tell us they really want a cat, but want to remove it from the system once and a while, then you might see it sooner than you think. But at this point many of our customers wanting the cat, don't plan on removing it for legal reasons. The few guys that track their cars all the time, have bought the one with no cat.
Maybe for you we could sell you 4 flanges and you could do this your self? But in the end the added flanges, welding, gaskets and bolts, will price us out of our competative price.
But you never know. We want to please you and maybe we could do something to help your needs like the flanges?
2 piece header is not in the works BUT, you never know. If enough people tell us they really want a cat, but want to remove it from the system once and a while, then you might see it sooner than you think. But at this point many of our customers wanting the cat, don't plan on removing it for legal reasons. The few guys that track their cars all the time, have bought the one with no cat.
Maybe for you we could sell you 4 flanges and you could do this your self? But in the end the added flanges, welding, gaskets and bolts, will price us out of our competative price.
But you never know. We want to please you and maybe we could do something to help your needs like the flanges?
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NAM members,
Just to let everyone know we are here Monday through Friday 8-5 pacific standard time. We are ready to answer questions about our parts (sometimes even others) If you have a suggestion, or a concern about a part, feel free to ask. You can even wine to us about things!
For ultra fast response try our Instant messenger service, or calling we are always here!
-In the next upcoming months be on the lookout for the Steves Auto Clinic's Mini we have helped with. He will be competing in the Touring car championship with the big boys!
-Way Motor Works is competing the Phil Wicks Mini challenge, and leading the points. Go Waylen!
-The Original and first to market, Alta Side draft IC will start shipping by July 28th, and for those special few, in a week or so.
-Mini headers with Cats are shipping again!
-Box tops are shipping the 17th
-Alta gauge pods in stock with perfectly matching Greddy boost, EGT, and oil temp, Electronic gauges. These are the only gauges that perfectly match the color, and quality of the Mini cooper. The gauge package price is $525 were as normally they are $650.
Contact your local dealer for any of these parts!
Just to let everyone know we are here Monday through Friday 8-5 pacific standard time. We are ready to answer questions about our parts (sometimes even others) If you have a suggestion, or a concern about a part, feel free to ask. You can even wine to us about things!
For ultra fast response try our Instant messenger service, or calling we are always here!
-In the next upcoming months be on the lookout for the Steves Auto Clinic's Mini we have helped with. He will be competing in the Touring car championship with the big boys!
-Way Motor Works is competing the Phil Wicks Mini challenge, and leading the points. Go Waylen!
-The Original and first to market, Alta Side draft IC will start shipping by July 28th, and for those special few, in a week or so.
-Mini headers with Cats are shipping again!
-Box tops are shipping the 17th
-Alta gauge pods in stock with perfectly matching Greddy boost, EGT, and oil temp, Electronic gauges. These are the only gauges that perfectly match the color, and quality of the Mini cooper. The gauge package price is $525 were as normally they are $650.
Contact your local dealer for any of these parts!
Formerly PassatDoTd
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I apologize if this has been asked earlier in this thread but I just don't have the time (today) to read through it all.
After installing my Alta CAI properly I noticed a high pitch whistle when going light on the throttle. At heavy or wide open throttle this whistle is not there. At steady cruising it typically is not there. But at light throttle you get a truly maddening whistle which changes pitch and wobbles.
Now I've been told that the VGS mod may eliminate this and I plan to try that. But I'd like to know why this issue wasn't addressed in the design?
The other noises the intake makes are music to the ears. But that whistle...
After installing my Alta CAI properly I noticed a high pitch whistle when going light on the throttle. At heavy or wide open throttle this whistle is not there. At steady cruising it typically is not there. But at light throttle you get a truly maddening whistle which changes pitch and wobbles.
Now I've been told that the VGS mod may eliminate this and I plan to try that. But I'd like to know why this issue wasn't addressed in the design?
The other noises the intake makes are music to the ears. But that whistle...
6th Gear
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From: Hampton, VA
Originally Posted by PassatDoTd
I apologize if this has been asked earlier in this thread but I just don't have the time (today) to read through it all.
After installing my Alta CAI properly I noticed a high pitch whistle when going light on the throttle. At heavy or wide open throttle this whistle is not there. At steady cruising it typically is not there. But at light throttle you get a truly maddening whistle which changes pitch and wobbles.
Now I've been told that the VGS mod may eliminate this and I plan to try that. But I'd like to know why this issue wasn't addressed in the design?
The other noises the intake makes are music to the ears. But that whistle...
After installing my Alta CAI properly I noticed a high pitch whistle when going light on the throttle. At heavy or wide open throttle this whistle is not there. At steady cruising it typically is not there. But at light throttle you get a truly maddening whistle which changes pitch and wobbles.
Now I've been told that the VGS mod may eliminate this and I plan to try that. But I'd like to know why this issue wasn't addressed in the design?
The other noises the intake makes are music to the ears. But that whistle...
Having had the BMP intake prior to the Alta I can assure you it was there a bit as well. Just not as noticeable.
The VGS does help some. The fact that this helps should indicate it really isn't a function of the Alta kit.
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Well I agree for the most part in that it isn't the Alta Kit that is making the noise BUT installing the kit is what causes the noise to appear. It didn't make that noise with the stock intake.
And for the record I'm not bashing or complaining, just want to know if the problem had been thought about.
And for the record I'm not bashing or complaining, just want to know if the problem had been thought about.
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Originally Posted by PassatDoTd
Well I agree for the most part in that it isn't the Alta Kit that is making the noise BUT installing the kit is what causes the noise to appear. It didn't make that noise with the stock intake.
And for the record I'm not bashing or complaining, just want to know if the problem had been thought about.
And for the record I'm not bashing or complaining, just want to know if the problem had been thought about.
3rd Gear
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Originally Posted by ALTA2
NAM members,
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-In the next upcoming months be on the lookout for the Steves Auto Clinic's Mini we have helped with. He will be competing in the Touring car championship with the big boys!
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-In the next upcoming months be on the lookout for the Steves Auto Clinic's Mini we have helped with. He will be competing in the Touring car championship with the big boys!
...
Totally cool, so what have you and Steve put together in this car???
Best,
-- Don
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From: Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted by apexer
Don't know you could call the noise a problem. Had you reviewed the many posts on CAI's you would find that most all make more noise than the OEM intake. It is just the nature of the beast
And I'm not the only one who has had complaints about the whistle. Why don't you sit back and let Alta reply since that is who the question was directed to.
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Perhaps...
Originally Posted by obehave
Originally Posted by PassatDoTd
I apologize if this has been asked earlier in this thread but I just don't have the time (today) to read through it all.
After installing my Alta CAI properly I noticed a high pitch whistle when going light on the throttle. At heavy or wide open throttle this whistle is not there. At steady cruising it typically is not there. But at light throttle you get a truly maddening whistle which changes pitch and wobbles.
Now I've been told that the VGS mod may eliminate this and I plan to try that. But I'd like to know why this issue wasn't addressed in the design?
The other noises the intake makes are music to the ears. But that whistle...
After installing my Alta CAI properly I noticed a high pitch whistle when going light on the throttle. At heavy or wide open throttle this whistle is not there. At steady cruising it typically is not there. But at light throttle you get a truly maddening whistle which changes pitch and wobbles.
Now I've been told that the VGS mod may eliminate this and I plan to try that. But I'd like to know why this issue wasn't addressed in the design?
The other noises the intake makes are music to the ears. But that whistle...
The VGS does help some. The fact that this helps should indicate it really isn't a function of the Alta kit.
Hey Alta Jeff, have you guys considered an insulation kit for the inside of the Alta airbox yet? It would also be a neat addition to the box top... It cools the filter down significantly and it really quiets down the whyne. The concept has been tested and experimented here in NAM... ( It gets exciting here... https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...t=71139&page=4 )
Best,
-- Don
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From: Hampton, VA
Originally Posted by VBG
I have to wonder if he would benifit from some thermal insulation... In addition to cooling the iniside of the airbox, I know it has essentially silenced my Alta CAI...
Hey Alta Jeff, have you guys considered an insulation kit for the inside of the Alta airbox yet? It would also be a neat addition to the box top... It cools the filter down significantly and it really quiets down the whyne. The concept has been tested and experimented here in NAM... ( It gets exciting here... https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...t=71139&page=4 )
Best,
-- Don
Hey Alta Jeff, have you guys considered an insulation kit for the inside of the Alta airbox yet? It would also be a neat addition to the box top... It cools the filter down significantly and it really quiets down the whyne. The concept has been tested and experimented here in NAM... ( It gets exciting here... https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...t=71139&page=4 )
Best,
-- Don
And a little insulation too
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From: Uniontown, PA
Originally Posted by PassatDoTd
Did I say I didn't like noise? I specifically stated I love the other sounds that come with the intake... the hiss, the scream when I punch it. The whistle is not a part of that.
And I'm not the only one who has had complaints about the whistle. Why don't you sit back and let Alta reply since that is who the question was directed to.
And I'm not the only one who has had complaints about the whistle. Why don't you sit back and let Alta reply since that is who the question was directed to.
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From: Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted by apexer
Now if everyone would "sit back and let Alta reply" there wouldn't be very many posts on this topic... now would there
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Originally Posted by PassatDoTd
I don't care whether there's 5 posts or 500. The Alta peeps say post questions and they'll answer so I did. I didn't ask for wiseass comments from other NAM members. Some people just can't mind their own business on these boards. That would include you Apexer.
As I stated in my first comment, the various noises, including the whistle have been discussed at length on NAM. A simple search on your part would have avoided any surprises.