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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 09:00 AM
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Dinan Engine Software Download

I am seriously interrested in having the Dinan Stage 1 engine software downloaded in my MCS 04.
Because of the warranty issue I will have it installed by my dealer. The cost is atractive.
Has anyone had this installed? If so how do you like it?
The car still does not run smoothly in first and second during traffic driving and wonder if the upgrade of softvare may cure this problem. No factory ECU upgrade has cured the problem.
Your input will be greatly appriciated.
PS. Just had a Mill cat back exhaust installed and love it and the fit is just puuurfect.
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by danish
I am seriously interrested in having the Dinan Stage 1 engine software downloaded in my MCS 04.
Because of the warranty issue I will have it installed by my dealer. The cost is atractive.
Has anyone had this installed? If so how do you like it?
The car still does not run smoothly in first and second during traffic driving and wonder if the upgrade of softvare may cure this problem. No factory ECU upgrade has cured the problem.
Your input will be greatly appriciated.
PS. Just had a Mill cat back exhaust installed and love it and the fit is just puuurfect.
Danish.
We dyno'd a car out here in SoCal....
BIG waste of money....
 
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 09:56 AM
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Not to hijack but I would like to add to your questions because I am sure you would like to know this also.

What happens when BMW comes up with a new software version that is manditory, such as the emissions recall last year? Does this erase and overide the Dinan software?
 
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by El Diablito Rojo-N20Mini
We dyno'd a car out here in SoCal....
BIG waste of money....
I don't think he's looking at it for hp, he mentioned improving the smoothness, of the throttle and idle I imagine.

I know the Dinan stuff really made my E46 more responsive and the increased revs were a good addition, I can't speak for the Mini though, but I'd be curious to hear what people have to say.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by El Diablito Rojo-N20Mini
We dyno'd a car out here in SoCal....
BIG waste of money....
How did the dyno measure the smoothness of the cars acceleration? I don't think he was looking for raw hp numbers, but how the car felt after the conversion in terms of smoothness.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by danish
I am seriously interrested in having the Dinan Stage 1 engine software downloaded in my MCS 04.
Because of the warranty issue I will have it installed by my dealer. The cost is atractive.
Has anyone had this installed? If so how do you like it?
The car still does not run smoothly in first and second during traffic driving and wonder if the upgrade of softvare may cure this problem. No factory ECU upgrade has cured the problem.
Your input will be greatly appriciated.
PS. Just had a Mill cat back exhaust installed and love it and the fit is just puuurfect.
Danish.
Give this a try: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=38268
 
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 09:26 AM
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HEY,i have the full dinan pkg it help the smoothness out alot . i have had this dinan

stuff for 7 month on my o4 coopers excellent /
stage 2 software/alta 15% pulley /dinan exhaust /cold air dinan /
throttle body /car ripps for half the cost of jcw
 
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Rick-Anderson
Not to hijack but I would like to add to your questions because I am sure you would like to know this also.

What happens when BMW comes up with a new software version that is manditory, such as the emissions recall last year? Does this erase and overide the Dinan software?
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Yes it does overide the Dinan and you have to have it reloaded. It is a no cost reload. That's the advantage of the dinan compared to other software. When there is a manditory recall.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by MINIGURU37
HEY,i have the full dinan pkg it help the smoothness out alot . i have had this dinan

stuff for 7 month on my o4 coopers excellent /
stage 2 software/alta 15% pulley /dinan exhaust /cold air dinan /
throttle body /car ripps for half the cost of jcw
great throw it on the dyno and lets see the numbers...
 
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 12:14 PM
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I don’t think the point of the Dinan products is to extract the very last horsepower. The factory obviously made compromises in order to appeal to a large segment of the market while the Dinan products are designed to appeal to a specific segment - moderate performance-oriented enthusiasts. Like the factory, many compromises are integrated into Dinan’s products in order to retain a certain level of drivability and reliability so that their cars and parts can be sold directly out of the BMW dealerships.

I drove Dinan kitted car recently and, although it may not have any more horsepower than a stock car, the drivability was greatly enhanced. It was as smooth as silk and it APPEARED to have much more power because the power band was in the right spot. And that’s what it is about for many of us - that occasional adrenaline rush that is unfortunately tempered by the remaining 98% of the time that we are sitting in traffic - the time that I personally don’t like spending monitoring gauges and stressing over a rough idle.
 
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick-Anderson
I don’t think the point of the Dinan products is to extract the very last horsepower. The factory obviously made compromises in order to appeal to a large segment of the market while the Dinan products are designed to appeal to a specific segment - moderate performance-oriented enthusiasts. Like the factory, many compromises are integrated into Dinan’s products in order to retain a certain level of drivability and reliability so that their cars and parts can be sold directly out of the BMW dealerships.

I drove Dinan kitted car recently and, although it may not have any more horsepower than a stock car, the drivability was greatly enhanced. It was as smooth as silk and it APPEARED to have much more power because the power band was in the right spot. And that’s what it is about for many of us - that occasional adrenaline rush that is unfortunately tempered by the remaining 98% of the time that we are sitting in traffic - the time that I personally don’t like spending monitoring gauges and stressing over a rough idle.
since when of us in So Cal sit in traffic? Especially when it rains!!!

The really sad part about this is::::

It should run smooth from the factory.....
If I am paying for something it better make power....
 
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick-Anderson
I don’t think the point of the Dinan products is to extract the very last horsepower. The factory obviously made compromises in order to appeal to a large segment of the market while the Dinan products are designed to appeal to a specific segment - moderate performance-oriented enthusiasts. Like the factory, many compromises are integrated into Dinan’s products in order to retain a certain level of drivability and reliability so that their cars and parts can be sold directly out of the BMW dealerships.
I had a chance to talk with Mr Dinan himself about the performace mods he offers. He said the same thing. Sure, he's not after extracting the MAX horsepower out of the car, he's after extracting additional HP out of a car with great reliablity and drivability. Good stuff!
 
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick-Anderson
I don’t think the point of the Dinan products is to extract the very last horsepower. The factory obviously made compromises in order to appeal to a large segment of the market while the Dinan products are designed to appeal to a specific segment - moderate performance-oriented enthusiasts. Like the factory, many compromises are integrated into Dinan’s products in order to retain a certain level of drivability and reliability so that their cars and parts can be sold directly out of the BMW dealerships.

I drove Dinan kitted car recently and, although it may not have any more horsepower than a stock car, the drivability was greatly enhanced. It was as smooth as silk and it APPEARED to have much more power because the power band was in the right spot. And that’s what it is about for many of us - that occasional adrenaline rush that is unfortunately tempered by the remaining 98% of the time that we are sitting in traffic - the time that I personally don’t like spending monitoring gauges and stressing over a rough idle.
Exactly, it is about making the power more accessible and the car more responsive. Drivability cannot be measured on a dyno
 
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by eVal
Exactly, it is about making the power more accessible and the car more responsive. Drivability cannot be measured on a dyno
but it will be on the race track
 
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Old Mar 19, 2005 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by El Diablito Rojo-N20Mini
but it will be on the race track
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eVal[/b]]Exactly, it is about making the power more accessible and the car more responsive. Drivability cannot be measured on a dyno
Originally Posted by El Diablito Rojo-N20Mini
El D, I think when people are mentioning drivability, they're referring to "daily use" drivability, not to track performance. You can make a car very "drivable" on a track, but wont do well going to the grocery store or be reliable taking you to work each day. The market Dinan is after is NOT the racer who tracks his car. He's after tuning for the person who drives their car on a regular basis and just wants more from it without having to worry about it.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 06:47 AM
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El D, I think when people are mentioning drivability, they're referring to "daily use" drivability, not to track performance. You can make a car very "drivable" on a track, but wont do well going to the grocery store or be reliable taking you to work each day. The market Dinan is after is NOT the racer who tracks his car. He's after tuning for the person who drives their car on a regular basis and just wants more from it without having to worry about it.
I know what they are saying but the point of the matter is.....

BMW makes cars that drive without hesitation and bogging.... yet why does the Cooper run like crap from the factory? I have never seen a car run like ours do from the factory.... that is unacceptable and you shouldnt have to buy software to make it run like it should have from the get go
 
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by El Diablito Rojo-N20Mini
I know what they are saying but the point of the matter is.....

BMW makes cars that drive without hesitation and bogging.... yet why does the Cooper run like crap from the factory? I have never seen a car run like ours do from the factory.... that is unacceptable and you shouldnt have to buy software to make it run like it should have from the get go
Actually on the E46 boards I saw lots of angry owners having problems with rough idle and stalling on the 330s - there were also issues of extremely low mileage attributed to the ECU software. I don't know about other models having these problems but based on that I can tell you that BMW has had similar issues before.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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eVal is correct - BMW has had these issues before.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 04:53 PM
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It appears that these are inherent problems associated with BMW’s attempt at being in the forefront of technology. The software and/or technology is sometimes brought to the marketplace before it is 100% proven and we become the guinea pigs. Microsoft has been guilty of this for years; how many versions of Windows came out prior to XP, which is still head-and-shoulders behind Macintosh in technology and reliability?
 
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by El Diablito Rojo-N20Mini
BMW makes cars that drive without hesitation and bogging.... yet why does the Cooper run like crap from the factory? I have never seen a car run like ours do from the factory.... that is unacceptable and you shouldnt have to buy software to make it run like it should have from the get go
Agreed.
 
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