Drivetrain Revolution Motor Works Standalone ECU
#2
#3
Thanks for the reply.
Are you using SCS Delta ECU?
Currently the engine is getting a rebuild.
Previously the tuner couldn't access the ECU to tune the car which already has a Manic Motorsport Stage 2 tune.
With another and future Manic Motorsport tunes the cost will be too much.
So now I'm looking for a standalone/piggyback ECU to enable full access tuning of the new build without disabling other car functions.
I have emailed SCS Delta for more info.
Are you using SCS Delta ECU?
Currently the engine is getting a rebuild.
Previously the tuner couldn't access the ECU to tune the car which already has a Manic Motorsport Stage 2 tune.
With another and future Manic Motorsport tunes the cost will be too much.
So now I'm looking for a standalone/piggyback ECU to enable full access tuning of the new build without disabling other car functions.
I have emailed SCS Delta for more info.
#5
What standard functions are missing from the car with the SCS Delta?
I've contacted SCS directly
"Thanks for the email and interest in our management systems.
Yes our management system will work with the JCW - we have the correct
scaling for the MAP sensor (3.0bar vs 2.5bar) and a base calibration for
an engine.
The ECU is fully unlocked and every aspect of the tuning can be modified."
#6
Definitely not wrong
they have been around for many years
But like I said they come and go
especially n14 / n18 stuff
There was a post on one of the Facebook pages a few years back
Entitled where is Janne
and if I remember correctly
They just called it a loss on there standalone anyways
They were trying to use links
& the
Fuel pumps pretty much was non-compatible
Check out RMW forums
if they are still up
But before warned
it was pretty much all just trolls anyways and if you don’t have a 53 they don’t want you on their
#7
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#8
Making a single standalone for the second gen Minis would be very difficult just knowing that there are 3 different engine revisions across 6 years that require 3 different ECUs. There's the N14 and the two versions of the N18. I don't know how different the N14 and first version of the N18 are but I know it's enough they they did have different ECUs. And the drivers in the ECU for the HPFP are different between the first and second version of the N18, meaning the actual components on the boards are different. Haltech was working on it but they basically said they couldn't do it, as I imagine the development costs were way too high for a niche market car.
Plus, as BigBoost said, RMW seems to only want to put big time and effort into the R53 platform. Last I knew he still doesn't tune N18s at all because the encryption is tough to crack, and the N14 tuning is few and far between because he only dyno tunes them. He put out a tune for the F series Minis but that's because they're easy to get into the coding.
Plus, as BigBoost said, RMW seems to only want to put big time and effort into the R53 platform. Last I knew he still doesn't tune N18s at all because the encryption is tough to crack, and the N14 tuning is few and far between because he only dyno tunes them. He put out a tune for the F series Minis but that's because they're easy to get into the coding.
#11
Thanks for the reply.
Are you using SCS Delta ECU?
Currently the engine is getting a rebuild.
Previously the tuner couldn't access the ECU to tune the car which already has a Manic Motorsport Stage 2 tune.
With another and future Manic Motorsport tunes the cost will be too much.
So now I'm looking for a standalone/piggyback ECU to enable full access tuning of the new build without disabling other car functions.
I have emailed SCS Delta for more info.
Are you using SCS Delta ECU?
Currently the engine is getting a rebuild.
Previously the tuner couldn't access the ECU to tune the car which already has a Manic Motorsport Stage 2 tune.
With another and future Manic Motorsport tunes the cost will be too much.
So now I'm looking for a standalone/piggyback ECU to enable full access tuning of the new build without disabling other car functions.
I have emailed SCS Delta for more info.
Ahh..i got ya'
Not sure what you are trying to get at
but a flash tune will be a lot cheaper then a standalone
not sure if you are new to the mini word
but the mini word really does have
a lack of quality
parts/company's out there
as of right now i believe theirs only one company out there
that is making / selling a standalone
"SCS-delta"
witch those guys are supplying the ECM
for the mini challenge car's
The only functions i lost with the SCS was
cruise control do to lunch control / 2 step
it's a solid product
little over kill but solid
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#12
Thanks BigBoost.
So other standard car functions will still all work i.e. alarm, climate control, central locking etc... apart from cruise control?
I think I might have to go with SCS Delta as the original ECU with Manic Motorsport stage 2 map is no good with a hybrid turbo and forged engine rebuild, as the rebuilder and tuner can't access the ECU for the remap.
I've heard with a standalone ECU the tuner has full control and is not limited to working within the parameters of the original ECU.
Thank you again.
So other standard car functions will still all work i.e. alarm, climate control, central locking etc... apart from cruise control?
I think I might have to go with SCS Delta as the original ECU with Manic Motorsport stage 2 map is no good with a hybrid turbo and forged engine rebuild, as the rebuilder and tuner can't access the ECU for the remap.
I've heard with a standalone ECU the tuner has full control and is not limited to working within the parameters of the original ECU.
Thank you again.
#13
Hi,
Is there any update for this ECU
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...is-coming.html
maybe a release date.
Is there any update for this ECU
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...is-coming.html
maybe a release date.
Thanks for the reply.
Are you using SCS Delta ECU?
Currently the engine is getting a rebuild.
Previously the tuner couldn't access the ECU to tune the car which already has a Manic Motorsport Stage 2 tune.
With another and future Manic Motorsport tunes the cost will be too much.
So now I'm looking for a standalone/piggyback ECU to enable full access tuning of the new build without disabling other car functions.
I have emailed SCS Delta for more info.
Are you using SCS Delta ECU?
Currently the engine is getting a rebuild.
Previously the tuner couldn't access the ECU to tune the car which already has a Manic Motorsport Stage 2 tune.
With another and future Manic Motorsport tunes the cost will be too much.
So now I'm looking for a standalone/piggyback ECU to enable full access tuning of the new build without disabling other car functions.
I have emailed SCS Delta for more info.
I gotta admit that my mini is broken again, but I can assure you that the problems have all been of my doing, not the tune. I'd be very suspicious of claims that Manic's tune caused an engine to blow up --- there are just as many, if not more, claims of un-tuned engines with the same failures. No tune will compensate for shoddy workmanship or bad parts.
All this being said, I'm still gonna follow SCS Delta's progress. Combined with an upgraded HPFP and injectors (when available), it might be a great add-on.
#14
#15
oh snap your over sea'
get a hold of the Mandingo's over at lohen
the scs delta starts about £1,650.00
£1,650.00
£720
am i missing something
if your trying to get away from manic i
really cant blame you
not a big fan of them
but there are other company's out there
Manic is back selling stage 3 ??
for a while they where no longer offering it
to the us market
just
double check there webpage
it says they are offering 3 map's
so they must be back
get a hold of the Mandingo's over at lohen
the scs delta starts about £1,650.00
£1,650.00
£720
am i missing something
if your trying to get away from manic i
really cant blame you
not a big fan of them
but there are other company's out there
Manic is back selling stage 3 ??
for a while they where no longer offering it
to the us market
just
double check there webpage
it says they are offering 3 map's
so they must be back
#16
Unless you have your own tuning capabilities, there will be other tunes required for added mods. Or does SCS provide unlimited tunes?
I haven't checked the Manic website, other than to see it changed from a year ago. The way I heard it from my tuner was he's only doing custom tunes --- datalog then new program, probably back and forth a couple times 'til it's good on a dyno and the road. This for stages 3 & 4. I would expect stages 1 & 2 to be pretty much canned.
I should be getting the head back in a few days, then re-assembly starts. I'll post it in NAM's new "Build" section.
I haven't checked the Manic website, other than to see it changed from a year ago. The way I heard it from my tuner was he's only doing custom tunes --- datalog then new program, probably back and forth a couple times 'til it's good on a dyno and the road. This for stages 3 & 4. I would expect stages 1 & 2 to be pretty much canned.
I should be getting the head back in a few days, then re-assembly starts. I'll post it in NAM's new "Build" section.
#17
#18
oh snap your over sea'
get a hold of the Mandingo's over at lohen
the scs delta starts about £1,650.00
£1,650.00
£720
am i missing something
if your trying to get away from manic i
really cant blame you
not a big fan of them
but there are other company's out there
Manic is back selling stage 3 ??
for a while they where no longer offering it
to the us market
just
double check there webpage
it says they are offering 3 map's
so they must be back
get a hold of the Mandingo's over at lohen
the scs delta starts about £1,650.00
£1,650.00
£720
am i missing something
if your trying to get away from manic i
really cant blame you
not a big fan of them
but there are other company's out there
Manic is back selling stage 3 ??
for a while they where no longer offering it
to the us market
just
double check there webpage
it says they are offering 3 map's
so they must be back
I already have stage 2 remap and don't fancy paying £720 for stage 3 + £??? for stage 4, so might as well go for standalone ECU SCS Delta as the tuner can do a remap for £300.
With Manic maps we're probably paying too much anyways, as Manic takes a cut and the tuning shop takes a cut.
#19
I'm sure the tuner I'm using will be more happy with tuning the SCS Delta ECU than the standard ECU.
Do you know if other tuning software is compatible with the SCS Delta ECU?
Is the software similar to the Link tuning software?
#20
Just took a look at the SCS web site. From what you say above, and the site info, we get a base map (250-320BHP?) and a replacement ECU, not an additional unit to plug in alongside our OEM ECU. In my case, I also need a Windows PC or laptop --- their SW isn't compatible with a Mac. I also don't have a JCW MAF or MAP (forgot which). Then I gotta learn how to program the various features available on their unit --- that or find someone local. Unfortunately, I don't know squat about timing, fuel mixing, etc. and I'm getting too old to want to learn, so it'll be a job for a tuner. No way I'm gonna do trial and error!
My current tune should be good for another year or so, before my next upgrade. I'll sit tight and wait for others to get experience with SCS. Gotta admit tho, it looks promising. Maybe someone will use an SCS unit to break into the 400WHP domain.
My current tune should be good for another year or so, before my next upgrade. I'll sit tight and wait for others to get experience with SCS. Gotta admit tho, it looks promising. Maybe someone will use an SCS unit to break into the 400WHP domain.
#21
400/450
there a few people doing it already
with a big turbo's
running stock ECM
Lohen last dyno day
had one
pretty positive it was a n14 as well
there a few down sides to the scs program
living tune is a pain in the ***
an it freeze
alot like alot
all the time
an yes will need a windows laptop
there a few people doing it already
with a big turbo's
running stock ECM
Lohen last dyno day
had one
pretty positive it was a n14 as well
there a few down sides to the scs program
living tune is a pain in the ***
an it freeze
alot like alot
all the time
an yes will need a windows laptop
#22
Just took a look at the SCS web site. From what you say above, and the site info, we get a base map (250-320BHP?) and a replacement ECU, not an additional unit to plug in alongside our OEM ECU. In my case, I also need a Windows PC or laptop --- their SW isn't compatible with a Mac. I also don't have a JCW MAF or MAP (forgot which). Then I gotta learn how to program the various features available on their unit --- that or find someone local. Unfortunately, I don't know squat about timing, fuel mixing, etc. and I'm getting too old to want to learn, so it'll be a job for a tuner. No way I'm gonna do trial and error!
My current tune should be good for another year or so, before my next upgrade. I'll sit tight and wait for others to get experience with SCS. Gotta admit tho, it looks promising. Maybe someone will use an SCS unit to break into the 400WHP domain.
My current tune should be good for another year or so, before my next upgrade. I'll sit tight and wait for others to get experience with SCS. Gotta admit tho, it looks promising. Maybe someone will use an SCS unit to break into the 400WHP domain.
Most tuning software I see people use run on windows, people with macs could use boot camp or virtual machines of windows.
#23
400/450
there a few people doing it already
with a big turbo's
running stock ECM
Lohen last dyno day
had one
pretty positive it was a n14 as well
there a few down sides to the scs program
living tune is a pain in the ***
an it freeze
alot like alot
all the time
an yes will need a windows laptop
there a few people doing it already
with a big turbo's
running stock ECM
Lohen last dyno day
had one
pretty positive it was a n14 as well
there a few down sides to the scs program
living tune is a pain in the ***
an it freeze
alot like alot
all the time
an yes will need a windows laptop
#25
honestly I don’t think much of anybody’s heard anything
I just popped over to their Facebook
Last time they posted was
October 30
The last time they posted anything
About a standalone was
june 28
just check out the forums
an i was the last person
to post in the r56 tuning section
asking for lunch control
that was 12-18-2017
the only response I got was yes just a few mouths out
honestly I would not be holding my breath
But who knows
would be cool if they did come out with something
We need more performance oriented stuff
For the R-chassis
I just popped over to their Facebook
Last time they posted was
October 30
The last time they posted anything
About a standalone was
june 28
just check out the forums
an i was the last person
to post in the r56 tuning section
asking for lunch control
that was 12-18-2017
the only response I got was yes just a few mouths out
honestly I would not be holding my breath
But who knows
would be cool if they did come out with something
We need more performance oriented stuff
For the R-chassis
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