Revolution Motor Works Standalone ECU
 

Hi,

Is there any update for this ECU

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...is-coming.html

maybe a release date.

Thanks for the reply.

Are you using SCS Delta ECU?

Currently the engine is getting a rebuild.

Previously the tuner couldn't access the ECU to tune the car which already has a Manic Motorsport Stage 2 tune.

With another and future Manic Motorsport tunes the cost will be too much.

So now I'm looking for a standalone/piggyback ECU to enable full access tuning of the new build without disabling other car functions.

I have emailed SCS Delta for more info.

rmw does not come and go, he's been around many years

Are you running SCS Delta on one of your minis?

What standard functions are missing from the car with the SCS Delta?

I've contacted SCS directly

"Thanks for the email and interest in our management systems.

Yes our management system will work with the JCW - we have the correct
scaling for the MAP sensor (3.0bar vs 2.5bar) and a base calibration for
an engine.

The ECU is fully unlocked and every aspect of the tuning can be modified."

Are you running SCS Delta on one of your minis?

Making a single standalone for the second gen Minis would be very difficult just knowing that there are 3 different engine revisions across 6 years that require 3 different ECUs. There's the N14 and the two versions of the N18. I don't know how different the N14 and first version of the N18 are but I know it's enough they they did have different ECUs. And the drivers in the ECU for the HPFP are different between the first and second version of the N18, meaning the actual components on the boards are different. Haltech was working on it but they basically said they couldn't do it, as I imagine the development costs were way too high for a niche market car.

Plus, as BigBoost said, RMW seems to only want to put big time and effort into the R53 platform. Last I knew he still doesn't tune N18s at all because the encryption is tough to crack, and the N14 tuning is few and far between because he only dyno tunes them. He put out a tune for the F series Minis but that's because they're easy to get into the coding.

I think when I posted the post had to be checked over or something and now it's posted above.

Thanks BigBoost.

So other standard car functions will still all work i.e. alarm, climate control, central locking etc... apart from cruise control?

I think I might have to go with SCS Delta as the original ECU with Manic Motorsport stage 2 map is no good with a hybrid turbo and forged engine rebuild, as the rebuilder and tuner can't access the ECU for the remap.

I've heard with a standalone ECU the tuner has full control and is not limited to working within the parameters of the original ECU.

Thank you again.

I've been waiting for this ECU since 2011. Gave up a couple years ago and went with Manic's stage 4. Love it!

I can't speak about being one of the "fastest", but definitely one of the most powerful --- last dyno was 368WHP & 353 ft-lbs torque. I should note that the dyno charts show the turbo to be the limiting factor --- boost is dropping off at high RPM's. This on OEM fuel and ignition systems with Manic's stage 4 and heat range 9 plugs. And even with all my mods and power, I still get about 39MPG, when I keep my foot out of it. It was built as a "sleeper" and that's how it's used --- mostly.

My Manic tuner assures me that Manic is back in business doing custom tunes. If you're concerned about "disabled car functions", ask your Manic tuner which function, and to what extent they have been "disabled", and why. Considering the cost of a stand-alone, plus the unknown reliability and cost of a new tune, I'd think long and hard about staying with Manic.

I gotta admit that my mini is broken again, but I can assure you that the problems have all been of my doing, not the tune. I'd be very suspicious of claims that Manic's tune caused an engine to blow up --- there are just as many, if not more, claims of un-tuned engines with the same failures. No tune will compensate for shoddy workmanship or bad parts.

All this being said, I'm still gonna follow SCS Delta's progress. Combined with an upgraded HPFP and injectors (when available), it might be a great add-on.

Thanks oldbrokenwind.

It's not the Manic Motorsport tune itself, it's the costs of the remaps with changing mods e.g. £720 stage 3 and stage 4 not even listed.

So hope to go with standalone ECU and not only be tied up with Manic tunes.

Hope you get your mini all sorted soon.

Unless you have your own tuning capabilities, there will be other tunes required for added mods. Or does SCS provide unlimited tunes?

I haven't checked the Manic website, other than to see it changed from a year ago. The way I heard it from my tuner was he's only doing custom tunes --- datalog then new program, probably back and forth a couple times 'til it's good on a dyno and the road. This for stages 3 & 4. I would expect stages 1 & 2 to be pretty much canned.

I should be getting the head back in a few days, then re-assembly starts. I'll post it in NAM's new "Build" section.

£720 is for the Manic Motorsport stage 3 remap.

I already have stage 2 remap and don't fancy paying £720 for stage 3 + £??? for stage 4, so might as well go for standalone ECU SCS Delta as the tuner can do a remap for £300.

With Manic maps we're probably paying too much anyways, as Manic takes a cut and the tuning shop takes a cut.

Thanks.

I'm sure the tuner I'm using will be more happy with tuning the SCS Delta ECU than the standard ECU.

Do you know if other tuning software is compatible with the SCS Delta ECU?

Is the software similar to the Link tuning software?

Just took a look at the SCS web site. From what you say above, and the site info, we get a base map (250-320BHP?) and a replacement ECU, not an additional unit to plug in alongside our OEM ECU. In my case, I also need a Windows PC or laptop --- their SW isn't compatible with a Mac. I also don't have a JCW MAF or MAP (forgot which). Then I gotta learn how to program the various features available on their unit --- that or find someone local. Unfortunately, I don't know squat about timing, fuel mixing, etc. and I'm getting too old to want to learn, so it'll be a job for a tuner. No way I'm gonna do trial and error!

My current tune should be good for another year or so, before my next upgrade. I'll sit tight and wait for others to get experience with SCS. Gotta admit tho, it looks promising. Maybe someone will use an SCS unit to break into the 400WHP domain.

I'm not attempting to remap the car myself, as any decent tuning shop should be able to adjust to the new software easily and not mess around with unlocking and locking of the standard ECU, as I've heard that's the most difficult part and not the tuning itself.

Most tuning software I see people use run on windows, people with macs could use boot camp or virtual machines of windows.

Once rebuilt and forged, my target is 300bhp as my daily driver and make it last for another 10 years or so.

Hi,

Just got a message from RMW

"yes, it's ready for sale
the E85 will be ready shortly
currently it's only for N14s"

looks promising.

Anyone knows any more?

Thanks