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Old Apr 4, 2015 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by countrymanman
I had to pull ecu and ship it for my tune. Going to do it again in a couple of weeks to upgrade to stage 3 with my new turbo and meth installed
I'm checkin out car rentals right now, or if I should jus enjoy a weekend trip somewhere.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 07:40 AM
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Yup the Manic tune still impresses me. I hit 160mph in mine and it still had more in it. I wonder what I can top out at.
I had plenty more in it I just ran outta room. I won't drive like that through traffic. I had a nice open stretch and seized the moment.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 07:47 AM
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so whats the best meth kit to use? and if you upgrade manic, is there a charge to go 2 to 3?
 
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 10:16 AM
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so whats the best meth kit to use? and if you upgrade manic, is there a charge to go 2 to 3?
Aquamist HSF-4 from Howerton Engineering.
Yes, but the upgrade cost is only the difference between the cost of the stages, and usually a small fee to cover labor costs, and shipping if applicable. The labor charges varies by dealer.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Tigger2011
Aquamist HSF-4 from Howerton Engineering.
Yes, but the upgrade cost is only the difference between the cost of the stages, and usually a small fee to cover labor costs, and shipping if applicable. The labor charges varies by dealer.
Agreed, except I got mine from http://aquamist-direct.com/ for a lot cheaper.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 10:28 AM
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I already ordered mine thru Jeff but good to know. Did you make the main board modifications for the mini yourself?
 
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Tigger2011
I already ordered mine thru Jeff but good to know. Did you make the main board modifications for the mini yourself?
I had not heard of any main board modifications. I'm still waiting for my hybrid turbo to get finished, then I was going to have it all installed at the same time. So I have the Aquamist HFS4 sitting in my garage just waiting, what is this modification?
 
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 10:42 AM
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Direct injection cars use low impedance injectors instead of traditional high impedance low pressure type injectors. One modification is to take the low impedance signal and amplify it. The other modification relates to gauge calibration. Haven't received mine yet so I don't know exactly how these changes are brought about (jumper, resistor, trace cut, etc.)
 
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Tigger2011
Direct injection cars use low impedance injectors instead of traditional high impedance low pressure type injectors. One modification is to take the low impedance signal and amplify it. The other modification relates to gauge calibration. Haven't received mine yet so I don't know exactly how these changes are brought about (jumper, resistor, trace cut, etc.)
Well I'll be keeping a close eye out for the updates once you get yours, or hope my installer is as good as he claims and will know these things already
 
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 11:15 AM
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The instruction manual lists the necessary modifications. IIRC you need to solder links or at least verify that they are linked. Same goes for what MAP sensor you're using 2.5 bar or 3.5 bar.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2015 | 06:24 PM
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I still haven't tried stage 2+ map C and my mini has been ready for it for almost half a year lol. chicken.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2015 | 12:56 PM
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I still haven't tried stage 2+ map C and my mini has been ready for it for almost half a year lol. chicken.
When I was Stage 2+ My mini made 226whp 231wtq with Map C on a Mustang Dyno
 
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Old Apr 17, 2015 | 06:12 PM
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I upgraded to the JCW turbo and have been running map A. Been taking it easy on the car since install. Car pulls so much stronger. Target boost on A is 1.3 bar at 18.85 psi. I noticed I have been overboosting above that boost level to almost 20psi on map A? Might need a new map.
 

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Old Apr 17, 2015 | 07:00 PM
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My map A on a stock S turbo will sometimes peak to 20.0 but it steadies right back down to a lower level. These peaks usually occur right after a shift (I also have an auto).

What does your MAF read?
 
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Old Apr 17, 2015 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by cerenkov
My map A on a stock S turbo will sometimes peak to 20.0 but it steadies right back down to a lower level. These peaks usually occur right after a shift (I also have an auto).

What does your MAF read?
Have not paid close attention. Nick said I might need an updated tune.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2015 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Casey Allen
Wish there was a dealer near me so I could get a tune :/ You all are having too much fun, leaving us behind.
send to Mario for a tune, got my ecu and shipped back the same day. i will get it delivered on friday, will be driving the entire day.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2015 | 12:55 PM
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Can a dealer discuss what's been updated on the latest 2.5+ tune? Mine was done in Nov of last year so wondering if i should get an update or not.

I also see over-boost peaks around 20 in map A, also an auto...
 
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Old Apr 23, 2015 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Dustypants
Can a dealer discuss what's been updated on the latest 2.5+ tune? Mine was done in Nov of last year so wondering if i should get an update or not.

I also see over-boost peaks around 20 in map A, also an auto...
Contact your dealer. They can answer your questions based on your exact file. There are dozens of different ecu ID's with updates coming out here and there. There may be no update for your exact file etc etc..

You cannot compare your tune to anyone else unless you know you have the exact same file etc.. some of the older N14's only get 1.4 bar on stage 2 + some of them get 1.5bar..
 
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Old Apr 23, 2015 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Dustypants
Can a dealer discuss what's been updated on the latest 2.5+ tune? Mine was done in Nov of last year so wondering if i should get an update or not.

I also see over-boost peaks around 20 in map A, also an auto...
Hey Dusty,
I will pull your file up and see what new tweaks have been improved on.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2015 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by MarioKart
Hey Dusty,
I will pull your file up and see what new tweaks have been improved on.
Thanks, Mario! I meant mostly general updates, new found stuff, improvements, what have you.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2015 | 06:25 PM
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It might be that people having difference update versions might affect performance to some point between versions. It's all speculation at this point. I understand this all to well with updating the BIOS on computers, the BIOS (Basic Input Output System) versons will dictate certain parameters on performance.
 
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Old May 1, 2015 | 10:30 AM
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Stage 3 Hybrid

2011 r56. Sending my turbo out for the hybrid setup. What is a good setup to go with? what size wheel?


3"catless, header, plugs, intake, HFS-4.
 
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Old May 2, 2015 | 01:24 PM
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I would suggest the owens turbo, since it is setup correctly right out of the box!
 
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Old May 16, 2015 | 05:53 AM
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First of all apologies for this question as I have not really kept up to date on tuning in the last 18 months.

Remap is the final thing to piece together my mods. DNA is local to me in the UK, as are other canned tuners. DNA seemed to get some good feedback on here, less so it seems here in the UK. Everyone now seems to rave about Manic, who incidentally are also quite local to me here in the UK.

As my car is a N16 early 2007 I believe the main benefits of Manic are that they are one of the few to be able to tune the N18. It also seems to be a canned rather than a custom tune. I also hear of updates available which seem to be a selling point but if you do not have a SPS how do you get these on your car, just take it to a dealer and they load the improvements FOC?


Not to mention the difference in stages which also seems to be something that files are already written for and are based on the hardware mods you will have made on your car, so why the extra expense between stages as it seems to be that each is a file created for a certain state of tune and surely it takes the same approx. number of hours to create a tune for specific mods? I can understand a surcharge for taking a car in with stage 1 and wanting stage 2 but why charge £100 increments for each stage when loading the first tune on ie stage 1 £500, Stage 2 £600 etc? Despite being based here in the UK it seems you guys in the US get a better deal price wise.
 
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Old May 21, 2015 | 06:00 PM
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Cerenkov, you have the Manic Stage 2+ tune, correct?
I've still been considering Stage 2+, but what PSI numbers are you getting, and how is normal, daily driving compared to stock?
I'm a bit hesitant as my brother's N14 Stage 3 (Accessport) destroyed a piston at 65k miles, with 20+ PSI and a restrictive exhaust.
 
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