Drivetrain (Cooper S) MINI Cooper S (R53) intakes, exhausts, pulleys, headers, throttle bodies, and any other modifications to the Cooper S drivetrain.

Drivetrain Have Money. Must spend. What MODs to do next?

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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 02:45 PM
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Crossposted @ Webb Motorsports...

Current car:

Helix Pulley, Madness Intake, HSport Springs, Madness Rear Anti-Swaybar (2 hole version ) Kosei K1's with Goodyear Eagle Rubber.

I should have ~2000 to spend; maybe a bit more.

I'm thinking a LSD is the first choice, maybe with a high perf clutch? (NO light flywheels though)

Unichip/GIAC + Big Intercooler? (Like that GIAC will ever come out...)

Header and QUIET exhaust? I'm going to see someone who has the Milltek tonight. I had the Magnaflow, too much for a daily driver.

Your thoughts? Thanks!

-Jim
 
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 03:20 PM
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I love the sound of Milltek exhaust that pairs perfectly with Milltek header. I also recommend Unichip and the additional power that it provides. It's very easy to install and totally reversable to OEM spec. It also comes with 2 different mapping, depending on the fuel you're running.

As for the intercooler, Randy is supposedly working on a IC sprayer to work with the
extra switch on Unichip. It'll be interesting to see how it turns out.

I'm sure Randy over at WMS will give you better suggestions. In any case if you still have more money left, I'll give you my mailing address or if you prefer, I'll take Paypal too.

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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 02:34 PM
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Just one reply? :smile:
 
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 02:47 PM
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Do you do track days or autocross? If so, I'd get another set of lightweight rims and some R-compound rubber...

Otherwise, I'd do the LSD and clutch... and maybe Webb's Stage 1 brake kit... that might be slightly more than $2K, though.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 02:50 PM
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>>Just one reply? :smile:

Hey, I take PayPal, too!


go for the Qaife and brakes

Enjoy yours!
 
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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Save the money for the speeding tickets.
(Sorry, but I have no suggestions)
 
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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What is your 401k overflowing or something?

oh, wait a second.

I mean if you're gonna go you might as well go big.

Wanna buy some life insurance? send me a PM.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 03:45 PM
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I'd say go either LSD, or Big Break Kit.
 
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 07:20 PM
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Thanks everyone!

I'll try to answer all in one here.

I do autox about 10-12 times a summer and I have a set of 15's (wheels and tires) on order for that specific purpose. (So much for the big brake kit)

No track days.

I'm leaning toward the LSD and I have a shop that will do it for 50/hour and has done at least 2 other Minis. Kelly-Moss (Porsche shop) will do it for 75/hour but has not done a mini. He estimates (not quotes) 8 hours. Mini dealer costs???

How important do you think the high-performance (is there one?) clutch is?

If I have any money left I'll paypal you. Promise.

Now how likely do you think it will be that I'll have any left?

Regards,

-Jim
 
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 07:29 PM
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Anyone like/dislike this kit:

http://www.mini-madness.com/index.as...&ProdID=79

Comes with a lightweight flywheel which I'm hesitant about.

-J
 
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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How 'bout a high flow head? I don't mean a reworked stock mini casting thats had a valve job. I read somewhere in the vendors announcements (I think) that someone has a new casting head, with significantly improved flow rates and larger valves. Might be something to look at. I think it was around $1700.


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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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Cross-drilled or slotted rotors in stock size and a set of green stuff pads instead of a big brake kit so they'll work with your 15 inch wheels.

Then a LSD

That should soak up your 2 grand.

The next 2 grand should go into a set of heads and throttle body

Then a serious intercooler for your next 2 grand.

Finally, deposit your 4th 2 grand directly into my paypal account!
 
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 11:34 PM
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There ya go.. LSD, clutch an flywheel, and you still have $25 left over! Life is good!
 
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 09:50 AM
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hey Jim- I would do Milltek catback and header.

I have the catback, but should've done the header.


 
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 05:17 PM
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I've not seen enough benefit to the Exhaust to justify it. Header and catback is spendy for what you get. No?

What I really want to know is if I should do the flywheel when I do the LSD install. Grrr. I'm already there after 6-8 hours of ripping apart.

Does anyone regret doing the flywheel? Does it make the car "unstreetable" to coin a word?

-Jim
 
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 05:27 PM
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>I've not seen enough benefit to the Exhaust to justify it. Header and catback is >spendy for what you get. No?


Nope.


 
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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How about brake upgrades? You have go fast bits on your car but
no increase in stopping capacity.

imho a lighter flywheel will net you pretty much nothing other than
pita shifting in the streets. The gear ratios are so close on these 6MT's
that while in normal traffic you'll be shifting with the gas slightly pressed
which will increase wear on your syncro's. Pulling off the line will probably
okay though. Im sure you'll appreciate the faster spindowns on the
roadcourse though. :smile:

LSD might do a little more, but I'd get better tires before doing that.
Have you tried S03's on your car? Im using those on WRX and its a
night/day difference vs other street tires especially those ES100's you
sold me. They're ok street tires but no where near the grip or
responsivness. Thats why I only use those on my commuter.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 05:47 PM
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>>>I've not seen enough benefit to the Exhaust to justify it. Header and catback is >spendy for what you get. No?
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>>Nope.
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$1600 from Stratmosphere.

Dude, my wife is going to kill me. :smile:

Seriously... I rode in one and even the *** dyno registered nothing compared to my car. MAYBE a slight midrange gain. We are otherwise identical.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 05:51 PM
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>>How about brake upgrades? You have go fast bits on your car but
>>no increase in stopping capacity.
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>>LSD might do a little more, but I'd get better tires before doing that.
>>Have you tried S03's on your car? Im using those on WRX and its a
>>night/day difference vs other street tires especially those ES100's you
>>sold me. They're ok street tires but no where near the grip or
>>responsivness. Thats why I only use those on my commuter.

Braking hasn't been a problem; really. I have the ferodo pads but otherwise stock rotors. I'll replace those when I fry them good.

I'm running the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3's and I love them.

I only ask about the flywheel because I figure it's a good time to do it - if I'm going to do it while I have the car apart.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 06:12 PM
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>>$1600 from Stratmosphere.
>>Dude, my wife is going to kill me. :smile:

wear a helmet ?


>>Seriously... I rode in one and even the *** dyno registered nothing compared to my car. MAYBE a slight midrange gain. We are otherwise identical.


Really? Header+catback and you can't feel the ~15whp gain? That's like
19-20hp at the crank. You should atleast feel a much smoother response
with that much headroom. I'm kinda surprised to hear that you didn't feel
anything. Is Stratmosphere playing with our heads?

 
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 06:51 PM
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>>I should have ~2000 to spend; maybe a bit more.


The google.com IPO is coming soon...

 
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 04:42 AM
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>>Really? Header+catback and you can't feel the ~15whp gain? That's like
>>19-20hp at the crank. You should atleast feel a much smoother response
>>with that much headroom. I'm kinda surprised to hear that you didn't feel
>>anything. Is Stratmosphere playing with our heads?
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Ken, not doubting you but I couldn't find that figure posted.

Is it at Stratmosphere?
 
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 06:48 AM
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Jim- i was being sarcastic, there are many people that have been very pleased
with the H+E. The thing w/ me is that since Im not running the pully it
appears that the header has enough capacity for what I am doing, but the header
would be next up before the pully + ECU for me.

The numbers are discussed at webbmotorsports and also listed at outmotoring.

Even with just the catback, my occassional studdering I had above 5k+rpm
is completely gone. Very smooth response to redline. Added the intake and it
just augmented the pull with even more capacity and boldness. Just opened
every thing up. I was quite pleased with the immediate change in response I got
from the Milltek and intake...so with your pully, I would assume you would get
an even more aggressive response with the H+E.

I wouldn't expect a huge increase like your pully, but the smoothness in response
with all the headroom would be what you would be after.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 07:27 AM
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>>Jim- i was being sarcastic, there are many people that have been very pleased
>>with the H+E. :smile:

I'll do the ECU before the exhaust, I can always tune it later. I'm liking the Unichip more and more because it seems the GIAC will be here in about 2006
 
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