Drivetrain Twincharged MCS
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From: So Cal
Originally Posted by Psi-Fi
link to video of the Kit!
http://www.psifimotorsports.com/vide...kompressor.wmv
As far as dyno wars are concerned anyone that knows me knows I put very little weight into dynos, so much can be manipulated and skewed and no real comparisons can be made between 2 cars on 2 different dynos. There was an awesome article in SCC 2 months ago on this where they dynod the same truck on the same day at several different dynos in SoCal, results were all over the place with varaiances of 75+/- hp. What I do put weight in is actual on road/on track performance. SPI is local it shouldnt be too hard to meet up and put the cars through the paces, Atco Raceway is open all winter sat/sun as long as the weather is clear
. Now this sounds like an awesome Mini Meet...
http://www.psifimotorsports.com/vide...kompressor.wmv
As far as dyno wars are concerned anyone that knows me knows I put very little weight into dynos, so much can be manipulated and skewed and no real comparisons can be made between 2 cars on 2 different dynos. There was an awesome article in SCC 2 months ago on this where they dynod the same truck on the same day at several different dynos in SoCal, results were all over the place with varaiances of 75+/- hp. What I do put weight in is actual on road/on track performance. SPI is local it shouldnt be too hard to meet up and put the cars through the paces, Atco Raceway is open all winter sat/sun as long as the weather is clear
. Now this sounds like an awesome Mini Meet...
you say dyno's are all different but have only dyno'd on your dyno
when the numbers don't come out the way you want you recalibrate
so what will you do when you post another 13.7 1/4mi?
just curious?
I run a dyno and see the results from other dynos every day. Now I am not doing HP tests but I know that weight loading and equipment calibration are a key factor. Many times I see different results from the same car after using different dynos but the differences are not that drastic. I would think that even if two different dynos were uses, provided they were both calibrated to SAE standards and were both running the same SAE software, a fairly close comparison could be obtained. I do agree that for the best comparison the same dyno should be used for both cars but this may not be possible.
It is also my belief that a ¼ mile race, although great to watch, just brings too many other factors into play.
This is just my opinion.
Dave
It is also my belief that a ¼ mile race, although great to watch, just brings too many other factors into play.
This is just my opinion.
Dave
I'm in philly and I would absolutely LOVE a ride in that helix twincharged. Unfortunately, I can't drive yet, but once I can, my dad and I are thinking about getting father-son MCSs. If I enjoy it, I may even suggest it to my dad... PLEEEASE reply!! This might be the turning point in my MINI-hunting "career"! 
BTW, just because I'm just under 15 doesn't mean that I'm in the dark about cars. I'm the teen car king!
BTW, just because I'm just under 15 doesn't mean that I'm in the dark about cars. I'm the teen car king!
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"I'm in philly and I would absolutely LOVE a ride in that helix twincharged. Unfortunately, I can't drive yet, but once I can, my dad and I are thinking about getting father-son MCSs. If I enjoy it, I may even suggest it to my dad... PLEEEASE reply!! This might be the turning point in my MINI-hunting "career"!
BTW, just because I'm just under 15 doesn't mean that I'm in the dark about cars. I'm the teen car king!"
I think that, because ur under 15, u shouldnt get behind a car with such power. There are enough fatalities and road accidents on the road as it is.
BTW, just because I'm just under 15 doesn't mean that I'm in the dark about cars. I'm the teen car king!"
I think that, because ur under 15, u shouldnt get behind a car with such power. There are enough fatalities and road accidents on the road as it is.
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Originally Posted by El Diablito Rojo-N20Mini
yet you brag that your car has 75more whp than mine yet fail to prove it...sheesh
you say dyno's are all different but have only dyno'd on your dyno
when the numbers don't come out the way you want you recalibrate
so what will you do when you post another 13.7 1/4mi?
just curious?
you say dyno's are all different but have only dyno'd on your dyno
when the numbers don't come out the way you want you recalibrate
so what will you do when you post another 13.7 1/4mi?
just curious?
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From: So Cal
Originally Posted by BlueMCS
Like you aren't a mouth for the "unknown" vendor.
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TWINCHRGDMINI I think it would help, IMHO, if you had your Web master include some photographs and information on the MINI S Turbo on your site
All now I get is:
All now I get is:
We apologize for the inconvenience. We are currently upgrading the site for a better surfing experience. Thank
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From: City of Angels, Cali
lol.... this thread very entertaining, all 28 pages of it.
And after reading the whole damn thing.... my money on the Red car. Killa Cali for teh win.
Hey El Diablito I would like to be present for the January 29th inaguration. How much are tickets?
And after reading the whole damn thing.... my money on the Red car. Killa Cali for teh win.
Hey El Diablito I would like to be present for the January 29th inaguration. How much are tickets?
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From: So Cal
Originally Posted by camelpilot
lol.... this thread very entertaining, all 28 pages of it.
And after reading the whole damn thing.... my money on the Red car. Killa Cali for teh win.
Hey El Diablito I would like to be present for the January 29th inaguration. How much are tickets?
And after reading the whole damn thing.... my money on the Red car. Killa Cali for teh win.
Hey El Diablito I would like to be present for the January 29th inaguration. How much are tickets?
I think $50 for 3 pulls.......
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From: L.A ca
Some interesting stuff here and I have a question for PSI. You mention using a bigger pulley to slow down the supercharger. In doing so aren't you also slowing down the water pump? With the added heat of the turbo cooking under the hood I don't know if that is a good idea. Do you plan on selling the kit south of the Mason Dixon line and if so have you tested it in those conditions.
Randy
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From: New Jersey
Originally Posted by USAMINICOOPER
First, pulley would speed up water pump.
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From: So Cal
Originally Posted by USAMINICOOPER
First, pulley would speed up water pump.
Second, it is not needed with this kit.
Third,he will sell it anywhere.
Second, it is not needed with this kit.
Third,he will sell it anywhere.
You might want to go back and re-think that one......
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From: Washington, PA
I don't think changing the supercharger pulley size changes water pump speed at all. You must change the crank pulley (to increase/decrease belt speed) or water pump pulley (to change rotional velocity of the pump shaft).
The water pump is driven by the butt-end of the SC shaft. Slow down the shaft and you slow down the water pump.
It's the opposite of the concerns of overdoing the water pump when the reduction pullies were first coming out.
It's the opposite of the concerns of overdoing the water pump when the reduction pullies were first coming out.
Originally Posted by Veni_Vidi_Vici
I don't think changing the supercharger pulley size changes water pump speed at all. You must change the crank pulley (to increase/decrease belt speed) or water pump pulley (to change rotional velocity of the pump shaft).
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really are you guys that uniformed of the mini while you have one of the most modded cars out their, common and do your research people and onley give advise if you know your spacific car and its internals or this kinda stuff discredits you !!! every car is different and just cause the normal setup of yesteryear always used a pully for the pump dosent mean every car is that way!!!!
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From: So Cal
Originally Posted by 4GAZM
really are you guys that uniformed of the mini while you have one of the most modded cars out their, common and do your research people and onley give advise if you know your spacific car and its internals or this kinda stuff discredits you !!! every car is different and just cause the normal setup of yesteryear always used a pully for the pump dosent mean every car is that way!!!!
