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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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M7's new brake system:

Super light weight Titanium Ceramic rotors with custom CNC machined hat making fittment to any wheel a breeze.
Total weight rotor and hat + hardware less then 8lbs

6 piston calipers, CNC machined not cast for lighter weight and stiffnes.
Total weight Caliper + brackets 5.5lbs

Rotor size is 12.9"

Compare these numbers to competing designs on the market that weigh 23-24lbs

Incredible performance, less unsprung weight ......you have to feel it to beleive it.

Kit commes with 2 rotors, 2 calipers, New brake lines and Ceramic brake compatible
brake pads. A new stud kit by ARP the best in the business and high temp brake fluid.

This particular rotorhat in the image is a pre production item, final unit will be annodized Etc.

Price: $3620.00

For more info call:

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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 04:32 PM
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Peter,

That looks real nice.

Out of curiosity, why don't we see more big brake kits that are front & rear combinations? I understand that the fronts do most of the braking, so that makes sense to try to get better heat disappation, but wouldn't the same apply to the rear?

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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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Wow, keep the products coming :smile: After I get my Mini Cooper S this summer ill be checking everything you got out by then
 
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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Peter...you are the man!


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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 05:12 PM
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Great! This may be what I need to spend way too much money on.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 05:44 PM
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Now THIS, THIS I LIKE .........too bad I'll never spend that kinda money on my MINI :???:
 
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 05:50 PM
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That's freakin beautiful.

I'll never buy it.

but way cool.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 05:55 PM
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gorgeous! would you ever consider drillin holes in those rotors, if it would help.

understanding of course: form folows function.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 05:57 PM
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Wow!!!

Now you've got the unsprung-weight idea!

Way way WAY!!! too much money for me. Good luck.

Do the 6 pistons help the brake pads wear evenly or something?

I can't think of a reason for so many pistons.

 
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 06:13 PM
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Nice! Any testing data?
 
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 07:09 PM
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Thank you guy's.......

Dave I think the reason you do not see many rear brake systems, are number one there is not many after market
brake calipers with parking brake provisions. number two would be the total cost of the system for the end user.
And number three would be that it's not totaly nessesary for great braking.

I am looking in to the possibility of a rear uppgrade with super light components that will make sense.....but who
knows maybee I'm already working on something giving the possibility
of really test the brakes....very yummmmy.

 
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 07:17 PM
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Whooaa.. that is AMAZING!! Nice stuff Peter! :smile:
 
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 07:25 PM
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Peter, that looks awesome! This will be a great upgrade for someone else besides me who can afford it! I am waiting for an aftermarket kit that can be done less expensively than what already exists on the market. :smile:
 
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 08:00 PM
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Now this is a sweet setup. A bit out of my range, but I can see some who are looking for the ultimate setup for the track would flock to this. I dont recall another ceramic rotor kit for the MINI, but I have seen quite a few big brake kits that use steel or bi-metal rotors.

Trip, the reason for 6 (in some cases more, but multiples in general) pistons is that the long length of the pads used in 'big brake' setups usually preclude using one huge piston, or a big piston on either side when not using a sliding caliper. You would be concentrating the force near the center of the pad, and the pad backing material would be responsible for spreading the force out over the pad's length. It's generally known that once you extend the pad backer a distance equal to about half the piston diameter, you will encounter flexing of the pad itself and reduced braking, along with noise, chattering and uneven wear. You would need to provide a very thick pad backer to prevent this, but doing so creates more weight and cost with little benefit. It's easier and much more compact to multiply the number of pistons and make them smaller to spread the force out. This has the benefit of increasing the braking force, and in the case of three or more pistons per side, you can lay them out in an arc to follow the curvature of the rotors. Doing this makes for a very compact caliper assembly that is very strong as well.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 08:12 PM
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Most excellent. Good job Peter! The photo is mouth-watering... as I see Ledas, and those new control arms also, and of course those tastey brakes. Keep the new stuff comin'
 
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 08:34 PM
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Ahhhh....I guess the man with the WINGs have something for everyone He's not so bad after all
 
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 08:47 PM
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Peter,

Great product. For prices, I think about $2600 to $2800+ range would get you more buyers.
I know you have quality going for you.

What are the requirements for your brake kit working with MINI stock wheels- 17" required?
Or will it work with any of the stock 16" set ups? Didn't think so.

What about any choices of colors besides black finish? What do you do for brake pads and how much a replacement set?

Also I like that you have rotors that are slotted only. It's the best for performance and durability/reliability in the long run.


 
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 09:03 PM
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I just chatted with Peter a little while ago, and these will fit 16" Volks As far as other 16's, I didn't inquire.
 
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 09:07 PM
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Peter, that's a very impressive design!

How much would a pair of replacement rotors cost, roughly?
What choices of brake pads are available? Would the Ferodo or Axxis pads work on this kit?

Can this be used for track? Or street preferred?
 
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 09:13 PM
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Peter, and what about brake bias? Those look like pretty big calipers, and with no rears, where does the brake bias end up?

 
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 09:29 PM
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Minihune.....
I can appreciate you would like the price to be around $2600 or so......it's not possible period, the TiCer rotors
are extremly expensive, CNC machined calipers are not cheap either, The amount of R&D that has gone in to these
brakes are staggering (read no fun and costly). These brakes where not ment to appeal to every one as they are
expensive, but for the Mini owner that want's the best or race their car this is the bomb..

The stock S-lites are absolutly impossible to fit a big brake kit for sorry but with that said who would use these
brakes with S-lites anyway, it would defeat the purpose of the titanium and ceramic.
I am currently working on the 16" application stand by

Brake pads will be about $100.00 per axle (4).

The brakes will be on my car so when we do the Mini vacation in Vegas I can give test drives etc.

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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 09:36 PM
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These are life time rotors no replacement ever, if you would go thru the Ceramic (very unlikely) the rotor can be
resurfaced with Ceramic for $200.00 for each rotor.

The actuall amount of brake fluid in these calipers, are not larger then any other brake kit on the market.
As we have been testing the unit no strange sponginess or premature grabbing when applying the brakes has
reared it's uggly head.

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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 09:43 PM
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As far as pricing... TiC rotors for the C5 are $1100 (or $4200 for the front kit)
http://www.madvet.com/shop?store=2&c...amp;frame=5119

(peter's pricing is a bargain... relatively speaking)
 
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 10:27 PM
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Its a mini not a Enzo. Good luck selling those
 
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Old Jan 28, 2004 | 12:44 AM
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Luck is what you will need trying to out brake a mini equipped with a set of those brakes :smile: Expensive perhaps, but so is your front end or the entire car for that matter if your stock brakes arent up to the task. If they are, then you are driving TOO SLOW :smile: Randy Page Title maxmini home page
 
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