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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 02:34 PM
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VSS on a R56

Hi guys, I got an 08 cooper non s.
add a data logger to the car (for racing stuff).
Where is the vehicle speed sensor located? I tried searching and it seems that people are saying that my car does not have one. Then how does the car know how fast the car is moving? what other sensor it uses rather than the VSS. wheel speed sensor? or other sensor in the tranny?

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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 04:10 PM
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Sorry I can't answer your question, but I have to ask.. "why?"
Have you found a way to get much more power out of the standard cooper engine?
 
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 04:25 PM
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When you are on a track, you are going fast when you pass others and not so fast when others pass you.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 04:59 PM
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It would be associated with the rear wheels somehow. When they are on a dyno the speedo reads zero.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SimpsonGI
It would be associated with the rear wheels somehow. When they are on a dyno the speedo reads zero.
and all kinda of lights come on the dash.. and the power steering doesn't work until you turn off and restart the MINI a time or two..

There is some really strange behavior associated with the dyno. The MINI really hates the wheels turning at drastically different speeds (0 mph vs 100+mph)
 
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Old Sep 24, 2010 | 10:51 PM
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How do smog shops deal with this issue when we go in for a smog check?
 
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 07:08 AM
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while yes the actual speed is measured through the rear wheels, the "speed sensor" cables you're speaking of are technically located behind your two front wheels. They are the thinner of the two "cables" if you will by your brake rotor. Ones your brake lines, the other is the "speed sensor cable" ,which, since im lowered, rubs against something while i turn, and i found both to be rubbed through the rubber exposing the inside wires. Upon contact with metal while turning it would set off my ABS/Brake/DSC lights in the car, until i wrapped it up with electrical tape.

dealer wanted 65$/sensor + 125 for install, which I passed on, as my electrical tape works just fine for now.

At least, this is what they call the speed sensor cables,even though the actual mph is read through the rear tires. These speed sensor cables play a role in abs and detecting wheel slip/spin etc, if i were to guess.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MotorMouth
Sorry I can't answer your question, but I have to ask.. "why?"
He said for data logging. Why not?

There was a VSS signal wire in the 1st gen. It was eliminated in the R56. Dr Obnxs ran into the issue with his ProShift product.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by rkw
He said for data logging. Why not?

There was a VSS signal wire in the 1st gen. It was eliminated in the R56. Dr Obnxs ran into the issue with his ProShift product.
the 'why' as in why datalog a cooper? It's not like we are tuning them.
 
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