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Old Mar 22, 2013 | 11:09 AM
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I understand the AP, and I understand the octane ratings, but I wanted to hear what Alta had to say since it's their maps. That's the whole point of the forum, to ask questions and get answers, otherwise I woulda just emailed Alta directly. There are plenty of people who bought the AP who might have this question in the future.

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Old Mar 22, 2013 | 11:49 AM
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Access to revised Maps

I wonder if it would be appropriate/legal/moral to create an archive of the revised maps. Perhaps there is a legal issue since I don't not know if Alta continues to own the maps, but once the stop support of the AP, this issue may change. I'm not technologically sophisticated enough to set up such a site, but I would guess it would not be hard.

The site could characterize the maps by:

ECU
Transmission Type
Rev Number
Octane
Issue Addressed (Idle Bounce, Throttle Surge, etc.)
Comments (Fixed problem, reduced problem, Fixed problem but created another problem, etc)

This could reduce the number of requests to Chris and Jeff, since the maps are publicly available.

Thoughts and comments?
 
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Old Mar 22, 2013 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Richieb0y28
I understand the AP, and I understand the octane ratings, but I wanted to hear what Alta had to say since it's their maps. That's the whole point of the forum, to ask questions and get answers, otherwise I woulda just emailed Alta directly. There are plenty of people who bought the AP who might have this question in the future.

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Then you have your answer. Minimum octane of 91. 93>91 so you will have no issues.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2013 | 05:32 PM
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I got the updated map from Chris, but it won't let me flash the tune as it says it's still connected to another car. When I load the map onto the AP it said " This map doesn't match the vehicle the AccessPORT is installed to". I guess i'll have to wait until Monday to see if he can straight things out.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2013 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DasCooper
Has anyone done the custom tune that Alta offers for $75? What does this involve, doing a log dump? Or is it more involved?
$75? For a remote tune, or can I head over to cobb tuning socal and get a tune for $75. If its the latter, im gonna have to get one eventually. First, more mods

Originally Posted by LarriB
I wonder if it would be appropriate/legal/moral to create an archive of the revised maps. Perhaps there is a legal issue since I don't not know if Alta continues to own the maps, but once the stop support of the AP, this issue may change. I'm not technologically sophisticated enough to set up such a site, but I would guess it would not be hard.

The site could characterize the maps by:

ECU
Transmission Type
Rev Number
Octane
Issue Addressed (Idle Bounce, Throttle Surge, etc.)
Comments (Fixed problem, reduced problem, Fixed problem but created another problem, etc)

This could reduce the number of requests to Chris and Jeff, since the maps are publicly available.

Thoughts and comments?
Great idea. Would also like to get that pob and burble map I saw a few guys running around with back some pages.
Originally Posted by Bigjoeski08
I got the updated map from Chris, but it won't let me flash the tune as it says it's still connected to another car. When I load the map onto the AP it said " This map doesn't match the vehicle the AccessPORT is installed to". I guess i'll have to wait until Monday to see if he can straight things out.
Did you call/email/pm him? or he just ent you one? I'd like to get a fix for that and maybe something for the shifting. Other than that though, I love it. Could totally feel the difference driving it hom from the dealer without the tune
 
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Old Mar 22, 2013 | 07:58 PM
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I'm pretty sure Chris said there's no way to do pop and burble.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2013 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooter09
Two customers... The PB works pretty good, it's enjoyable and the car runs good. But like Chris said, there are a couple problems, all be it minor, that need some tweaking. I ran it for a couple weeks, and liked it, and good look past the problems, but they exist none the less.
Originally Posted by ALTA_Chris
There's one customer that has a PB map, and has been running it for a little while. There still are some problems that we've been working on though.
Page 79. If any of the alta guys read this, pm me. Would love to try it!
 
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Old Mar 23, 2013 | 06:00 PM
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I was driving today with the normal maps, beta updates off, and my idle seemed to be better. Still shift issues though, seems as if it goes into the shift, the acceleration stops while the rpms rise, and then it kicks back in. I have a datalog of it, and the rpms only drop about 100 between shifts. Most of the other things seem pretty similar between gears, so not sure what exactly is happening
 
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Old Mar 24, 2013 | 07:13 PM
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Does anyone have any idea what kind of boost levels could be expected running an AP stage 2 or 3 map with a 3" catless turboback exhaust? I posted this elsewhere but thought I'd add it here as well.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2013 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TerminalVelocity
Does anyone have any idea what kind of boost levels could be expected running an AP stage 2 or 3 map with a 3" catless turboback exhaust? I posted this elsewhere but thought I'd add it here as well.
24 psi, that's what my AP showed.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2013 | 10:45 PM
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Sounds about right. I hit 22 psi driving today with stage 1, and that really surprised me.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2013 | 11:35 PM
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Wow! Thanks for the insight. I did a dyno run last week in stage 1 92 oct. FMIC and was hitting 22 PSI as well.

I'm just looking to make sure I'm hitting fairly normal boost levels with the mentioned mods when I get this downpipe in and I wasn't sure what a safe or normal range is for stage 2 and above.

Anyone else with any info please chime in. Thanks again.
 

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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 10:41 AM
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Chris sent me the correct map this morning, I've already loaded it onto the AP while at work, joys of being an IT guy for a school. Once school is over i'm going to load the map in the parking lot and test it on the drive home.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by drewburack
Page 79. If any of the alta guys read this, pm me. Would love to try it!
I would love the P&B as well, but I was previously replied to in this thread by Chris that it would never happen.

Speaking of which, Chris, if you read this, I'd like to know if I'll be able to take advantage of the Stage 2 and Stage 3 maps if I have the Akrapovic 100c downpipe and a Borla 2.5 exhaust (even if the 3" is the recommended).

I'm running a FMIC and DOS intake at the moment.

I'll also be installing a water/meth kit at some point soon, will this perhaps negate the 3" exhaust requirement to take advantage of the maps?

Thanks!
 
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 06:15 AM
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There is a pop an burble map, I've heard it's more like pop and bang!
 
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 08:23 AM
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The updated map fixed my bounce idle, it's also has smooth shifting out a bit as well. The car fells more stockish but with the extra power now. It felt faster with the other map but i'm still testing this new one. The old map felt like a beast trying to break out at any second and the second map has a pad lock on the door.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 08:51 AM
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Semi Off Topic

For those of us (post N14) that drool over an AccessPORT for our latest greatest there may be something on the horizon...check this out:


Major MINI Cooper ECU Tuning Announcement Due Soon

March 25th - We expect in the next few weeks to be announcing an amazing breakthrough with an ECU Tuning Product for the MINI Cooper S & MINI Cooper JCW. This product will be available for ALL 2007 thru 2012 MINI's with the N14 motor and ALL 2011 thru 2013 MINI's with the N18 motor.

This joint venture between MINI Dynamics, a major aftermarket manufacturer of MINI Copper Performance Parts and our friends in Germany has been in development for almost a year now. We are finalizing the Dyno Testing results for a press release that confirms what our individual MINI testing has been telling us for the last few months. We currently have this new ECU Tune installed on our personal MINI's and these 4 test vehicles:

2009 R56 MCS w-N14
2012 R58 JCW w-N14
2012 R60 MCS w-N18
2013 R56 JCW w-N18

Stayed Tuned for this breaking announcement of the most exciting new product since the AccessPort!

NO ECU removal and shipping

NO waiting for maps to be emailed


and here's the link:

http://www.minidynamics.com/ECU-Tuni...ems-s/1514.htm
 
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 08:53 AM
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That should probably have its own thread. Sounds promising!!
 
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 02:04 PM
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This really needs its own thread! Holy hell this is exciting!
 
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 02:14 PM
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Man you stole my thunder, I was just gonna post that for these guys haha.

I'm as excited for the N14 guys and my N18 MCS!!!
 
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 02:54 PM
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Wow, quite interesting. I wonder if this will be another magic box that lists for $800. Maybe we should dump the AP's now before they become relics. Mine has never worked right for my car but it does provide lots more power and I would hate to give that up too soon.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 03:51 PM
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In my guesstimate, I would say it'll be safe to say anywhere from $800-900 at least for it. I wouldn't pay probably any higher than that. But regardless, I'm sure it might be very good, at least I am hoping it will
 
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 04:08 PM
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I cant afford to pay anything for it, unless they allow trade-in for the AP. Already paid too much.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 04:29 PM
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$900 would make it more expensive than literally any Cobb accessport, including accessory for the Nissan GTR.

I hope the price is appropriate for people who are buying $20k to $35k cars.

The price of the accesport was almost as expensive as an apr tune for a 997 Porsche. Mini enthusiasts pay high prices because we don't have any other options. Hopefully this new tuner can provide a quality product at a reasonable price point.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 04:50 PM
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I do feel sorry for the folks who paid for the ap. I'm just happy because I haven't done any mods yet and this might be my first one!
 
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