hi, i got another engine and want to modify it before put in the car. I have all my time. I bought this engine because the transmission came with and i broke mine few weeks ago.

My principal question is: What i need to do to my engine to get out the more Hp possible. The engine is a 2004 w11 (1.6L supercharged).

The upgrade from RMW to put a 2.0L in a mini interrest me but do you thing i will appreciate the money i put on the engine or i can go on another way??? Someone now the cost and what i need to buy to put that kit?

Thanks,
*k-bec*

 

i don't think Mynes or Hubie makes a 2.0L, they will probably do a turbo kit for it, though... you're thinking of RMW, maybe for the 2.0L??

Since u have it out, i'd suggest putting in some forged pistons

 

If you tear it down, send off the internals to Swain Tech for some coatings.

 

How much Money?
How much HP you want?

 

what i will gain for coatings my internal???^Part will have a longer life??? Will give HP?

 

the money is not a problem!!! If i can have over 250 to wheel will be ok, more of 300 will be perfect :P

 

http://www.coasttocoastusa.com/zenca...products_id=88

what do you think about that???

 

These kits turned out to be unreliable and caused problems with some people, you might want to talk to RMW about doing a rotrex supercharger.

 

if you want to stay s/c'd go rotrex it seems . if you wanna go turbo call mynes . so s/c call rmw . turbo call mynes . both can help you to 300 whp .

 

The coatings for the internals would help with heat dissipation (lessen any engine knock), even out combustion, reduce friction, and improve over all durability. They use these coatings on race engines.

One of RMW's test cars is being rebuilt with these coatings and their goal would be to surpass the 330 whp that they had before.
Look here: https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...c-stroker.html

 

Exactly. If you have money, then call one of these guys who has a PROVEN approach to build the power and reliability you're looking for - don't try to piece it together with uncertain results...

 

One wouldn't necessarily need to go to a MINI tech. Any reputable engine builder could do what you want.

If you're only expecting 250hp, I don't think you would need to rebuild the engine unless it appears to be in bad shape. Even then, stock internals would be sufficient. However, uprated internals could probably be cheaper if you check prices against the OEM dealership.

Search around the threads and I believe you find a variety of cams, heads, and bolts-ons to get you close. If you're serious about power, have your builder put together a turbo conversion and totally lose the SC altogether. The SC is the biggest restriction in the motor anyway.

 

Welllllll...... yeah..... but......

There are a handful of true 300HP MINIs out there... and there are some known combinations of things that work well. And some things that don't work well. Why reinvent the wheel with a tuner/builder who doesn't know MINIs? And have to relearn what the other tuners have already learned on the first ones they tried that didn't work, or grenaded, or failed to make the HP they were expecting, or failed to yield good driveability, or....

 

exactly. I don't want to try and know after was the bad choice and need to do all again. I want to keep the supercharged engine. Just want to know exactly what i need to order to be ok with all the issues can happens (header, head, cam, pistons, s/c, pulley, etc...)

 

k . you need to order a plane ticket for your ride to rmw out on west coast ,. there you have it . 300 whp and a bunch of money later and you happy man .!!!

 

OR, order all the parts and take few month to put all together in my garage. I'm on the east coast and ship the car on west coast is maybe not what i thought at the beginning. I use to do my mod by myself. Yes i know i'll have to send few part to a machine shop but don't want to ship the car. I love mecanic and want to know how do it. When i'll have problem after, i'll know exactly what i need to get out off the car to have acces.

 

Seriously - read this thread (all of it):
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...t-x-300-a.html

And this one:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...pressions.html

Then call Jan. You don't need to ship the car to Cali. You can put it together yourself - and there are east coast MINI shops who know how to do this with his stuff.

 

Oh yeah - another one:
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...c-stroker.html

 

ditto...

 

Engines from any make all do the same thing (with exceptions to say a wankle, diesel, or 2stroke) so while the appearence may be slightly different power can be found similarly to other engines. The thing about MINI tuners is they've only been around for what, six years now, and are familiar with one engine. Like I said, any reputable engine builder can produce the same result, if not find more power, considering the differences in experience. Its not reinvention, the techniques have been around for decades. I can understand the thought that the MINI is unique and requires attention only those familiar can provide. Realistically, the difference is only in the size.

 

OK. So pick an experienced builder that's never touched a supercharged Tritec before. I'm sure they'll figure out all the in and outs of what works and what doesn't on a supercharged Tritec. On your dime. Which is why there are guys out there who are on their third build now.

Most MINI tuners / builders built something else before there were MINIS... Or the folks who do their engine work for them did... so they're not newbs... they're your "reputable builder"... except they've ALSO built Tritecs / MINIs.

If I could have a guy who built the best Mustangs or Cobras or Evos or Subies in the world, but had never touched a supercharged Tritec - or could have the third or fourth best guy at that, who had also done a dozen supercharged Tritecs... I know who I'd pick.

 

It's not just about the mechanical parts, and there are some special items to get mechanicals right for power. There are many folks around the world who haven't found the right combination, and it's not for lack of trying.

If you can't get the ECU right might as well leave it stock, because once you upset the apple cart, it only goes down hill. The only way to get a true, reliable 300hp is to use the right parts in conjunction with a proper tune for the combination.

 

BS. Any builder can do it.

Yep. I thought about, but didn't mention, the ECU / system issues. Proven to be non-trivial.

 

see this is what makes the mini community a conceited group. These builders you speak of aren't doing their own machine work. No, they rely on the reputable builder I speak of. The "builders" you talk of on their third or fourth build are trying to turn a buck by using a less experienced machinist who can return a product they can resale and produce a profit on. Not very difficult considering the MINI community is oblivious to reality.

Produce a list of MINI tuners with their own in-house machine shop.

 

Conceited? Nah.

As I said two posts ago:

I have no illusions about most of the MINI tuners being engine builders or machinists.

Ask any of the "good" builders who have built ANYTHING whether their first one of ANYTHING was as good as their third or fourth. If they say "yes"... those are the conceited ones.

But it's the OP's money - he can spend it as he wants. He came here seeking opinions from others who have either participated in or witnessed the spending of LOTS of money on LOTS of MINIs over the past several years - some builds that turned out well, others that didn't. We gave him those opinions. It's a free country (nominally). He can choose to learn from others, or not.