So hard believe, but looks true....can anyone with these RMW headers care to explain?

unless M3NTAL's rmw headers were duff (broken cat, cracked primaries, etc)...

 

What speed shop did ya have it done at? Interesting results...

 

The unit is in perfect functioning order. It also sounded great on the car - Like a miniature F430 honestly.

 

So why take it off?

 

$$$ for other modifications and hobbies.

[edit] see signature for my other money pit that is getting a make-over at the moment

 

hehehe..understood brother...Im in a money crunch at the mo too..just got a new huge house and a baby on the way...so, my other mods will have to take a rain check and wait a few months....gotta get my priorities right ; )

 

and was one of those "other modifications" a megamynes header?

if so, how about a pull after install and posting the chart

 

What "local speedshop" was the dyno done at?

 

It would be nice to see A/F's and boost to get the complete picture.

Why the drop-off at 6800 rpm's on the first pull?

Interesting indeed...

 

What would be interesting - have RMW tune the same car on the same dyno - and do back to back runs - would they be different? Who knows?

 

Actually it's $850 PLUS all the free codes that you could want.

 

That was pretty cool!

 

I knew that when you saw this thread you'd be flippin'...especially after reading your posts in the "code" thread.

 

Thats the question I have also. If RMW tuned the package and then the header was changed to stock, what would the deltas be?

 

Evolution Motorsports, I have two friends that work there that are a part of the BMW club I am with.

Also - a Mynes header might be in the future, but at this time I am happy with the stock unit.

 

Something seems amiss here. Even Mynes have said they got good gains with the RMW header. Here is another post (not an exact comparison because it's between an OBX and RMW, but before RMW, people had posted small gains with even the OBX):

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-obx-dyno.html

I personally installed the cam and header at the same time, so I can't comment on the increases individually, but certainly most of the well known aftermarket headers provide more power than the stock header.

 

Stock unit...drooooool.

 

Thanks! Is that where you got your tune done at?

 

No - as listed in my initial post, the vehicle was tuned at Mynes in Mesa Arizona.

 

That's weird dude!
But I'm suspicious when any vendor/and/or/represetative threads results about the very same competitor they are trying to dethrone in the "tuner wars", it essentially advertisements or an online marketing campaign, in a way. I think any header to benifit is a question of proper ecu tuning, not saying the results are skewed/and/or/biased but.... Marketing is a formula based on perceptions. I mean if I were a vendor the my goal on NAM would be to find any negative threads about a competitor perpetuate them and create more of them, be catalyst to keep those threads at alive and on top, well just below my products positive threads about my products. Exploit the hell out of their weakness, then market my products streangths as the competitors weakness. Without it being directly obvious of my intentions in my message.

 

There is a King here? Who is the King?

 

Well, luckily I am just a customer and I am only posting comparative data.

 

The car was tuned FOR the RMW Header and then the stock was put on. Somehow the stock made more power with the car still being tuned for the RMW header. It's not like the car was untuned...

Interesting results though

 

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This is great news! Regarding the header, were you running stock before or a different brand than RMW? Thanks.

We were running a stock style header with the Catalytic converter and expansion joint removed. The RMW header is a substantial improvement.

Randy

Now I'm really confused .

 

I'm sure the RSR guys got a substantial discount on the header(if not for free)...would you expect them to say something bad about it?