Drivetrain RMW cam confusion. Jan? (CLOSED WHY?)
therein lies the rub
we do have our own proprietary cams that are in cars
plenty of parts.... we speak to manufacturers to build parts for us, just like everyone else
you think people build this stuff in the bath tubs?
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From: Orange County NY
Better question is does it matter?
If the part performs as stated and your happy with the part does it really matter?
If you don't like Jan there is nothing that says you have to buy his parts, have him tune your car or have to deal with him at all .
I have to wonder if Jan left the Mini Community would people be happy or would they look for the next vendor to drive away? Come on we should all have learned from the past(Yes including me) that if you dont like a company just dont buy their parts or services and Nam needs to stop driving vendors away.
Jan keep doing what your doing and don't let the forums drag you down your work speaks for itself.
If the part performs as stated and your happy with the part does it really matter?
If you don't like Jan there is nothing that says you have to buy his parts, have him tune your car or have to deal with him at all .
I have to wonder if Jan left the Mini Community would people be happy or would they look for the next vendor to drive away? Come on we should all have learned from the past(Yes including me) that if you dont like a company just dont buy their parts or services and Nam needs to stop driving vendors away.
Jan keep doing what your doing and don't let the forums drag you down your work speaks for itself.
Last edited by jeffc; Feb 1, 2009 at 07:25 AM.
6th Gear
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From: Winston-Salem, NC
Has anyone noticed that the person who brought all this up has not posted in a long time, so why try and start it up all over again. The question has been answered and now it's just become repetitive dribble....
don't worry, I have it copied
another shining example of "integrity" by the tifosi
Here's how it works. Jan has been the only aftermarket manufacturer to make 300whp on a supercharged MINI. No one else can come close. Jan has teamed up with people to make some of the best parts for the r53. (((People love to hate))). Certain forum nerds have nothing better to do then sit safely behind there computers and spew garbage, perhaps it fills that empty void where a life should be? Get a life, find a girlfriend and get outside sometime to see what a blue sky looks like. Or better yet buy a Civic hatchback and take your babble to that forum, dipsh!ts
keep up the good work Jan.
Dan
keep up the good work Jan.
Dan
second no one is arguing that he has made 300whp on an R53. that has NOTHING to do with this thread.
third it doesn't matter who he has teamed up with. he clammed to design a part that he did NOT. regardless if he is the "exclusive" distributor in the US!
yes he has said he got a few custom cams in (which i am guessing are on the 300whp R53) and plans to get more in too. but as far as the "street" cam it is not his design. but I take it he is working on one. I am interested in how much of a difference his "street" cam would be vs the other one. I have not heard anything bad about his parts. this (and the other) thread were to find out about who designed them not to criticize the parts/manufacture/vendor/performance/etc. but some people, like MiniStupidfun, just like to try to make things out to be more than they are.
this could have ended quite simply if Jan just steped up and said that he did not design the cam but it was the best that he had found and is working with them to have his own design built. Insted of being criptic in his responces. maby this wouldnt have gone on for 2 threads!
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first off watch the name calling!
second no one is arguing that he has made 300whp on an R53. that has NOTHING to do with this thread.
third it doesn't matter who he has teamed up with. he clammed to design a part that he did NOT. regardless if he is the "exclusive" distributor in the US!
yes he has said he got a few custom cams in (which i am guessing are on the 300whp R53) and plans to get more in too. but as far as the "street" cam it is not his design. but I take it he is working on one. I am interested in how much of a difference his "street" cam would be vs the other one. I have not heard anything bad about his parts. this (and the other) thread were to find out about who designed them not to criticize the parts/manufacture/vendor/performance/etc. but some people, like MiniStupidfun, just like to try to make things out to be more than they are.
this could have ended quite simply if Jan just steped up and said that he did not design the cam but it was the best that he had found and is working with them to have his own design built. Insted of being criptic in his responces. maby this wouldnt have gone on for 2 threads!
second no one is arguing that he has made 300whp on an R53. that has NOTHING to do with this thread.
third it doesn't matter who he has teamed up with. he clammed to design a part that he did NOT. regardless if he is the "exclusive" distributor in the US!
yes he has said he got a few custom cams in (which i am guessing are on the 300whp R53) and plans to get more in too. but as far as the "street" cam it is not his design. but I take it he is working on one. I am interested in how much of a difference his "street" cam would be vs the other one. I have not heard anything bad about his parts. this (and the other) thread were to find out about who designed them not to criticize the parts/manufacture/vendor/performance/etc. but some people, like MiniStupidfun, just like to try to make things out to be more than they are.
this could have ended quite simply if Jan just steped up and said that he did not design the cam but it was the best that he had found and is working with them to have his own design built. Insted of being criptic in his responces. maby this wouldnt have gone on for 2 threads!
4th Gear
Joined: Dec 2006
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From: Brisbane, Australia
first off watch the name calling!
second no one is arguing that he has made 300whp on an R53. that has NOTHING to do with this thread.
third it doesn't matter who he has teamed up with. he clammed to design a part that he did NOT. regardless if he is the "exclusive" distributor in the US!
yes he has said he got a few custom cams in (which i am guessing are on the 300whp R53) and plans to get more in too. but as far as the "street" cam it is not his design. but I take it he is working on one. I am interested in how much of a difference his "street" cam would be vs the other one. I have not heard anything bad about his parts. this (and the other) thread were to find out about who designed them not to criticize the parts/manufacture/vendor/performance/etc. but some people, like MiniStupidfun, just like to try to make things out to be more than they are.
this could have ended quite simply if Jan just steped up and said that he did not design the cam but it was the best that he had found and is working with them to have his own design built. Insted of being criptic in his responces. maby this wouldnt have gone on for 2 threads!
second no one is arguing that he has made 300whp on an R53. that has NOTHING to do with this thread.
third it doesn't matter who he has teamed up with. he clammed to design a part that he did NOT. regardless if he is the "exclusive" distributor in the US!
yes he has said he got a few custom cams in (which i am guessing are on the 300whp R53) and plans to get more in too. but as far as the "street" cam it is not his design. but I take it he is working on one. I am interested in how much of a difference his "street" cam would be vs the other one. I have not heard anything bad about his parts. this (and the other) thread were to find out about who designed them not to criticize the parts/manufacture/vendor/performance/etc. but some people, like MiniStupidfun, just like to try to make things out to be more than they are.
this could have ended quite simply if Jan just steped up and said that he did not design the cam but it was the best that he had found and is working with them to have his own design built. Insted of being criptic in his responces. maby this wouldnt have gone on for 2 threads!
Last edited by scolburn79; Feb 1, 2009 at 11:58 AM. Reason: Spelling
Yes the question asked was what you said, but there is a few years history between Jan and onasled so really there was more behind that simple question. I really doubt that onasled would ever buy anything from RMW because of that history, so when he asked the question, it was basically to do what it did, discredit and take business away from RMW. If you have questions about Jan's products, call or email him and make up your own mind. There is a reason that people come on here and defend his reputation when it is attacked
Last edited by batrugger; Feb 1, 2009 at 09:06 PM.
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From: oh10
Here's one for you, if you and Onasled weren't on so much of a witch hunt then neither of the threads would have been started. You 2 need to go back to that rock you crawled out from underneath of, actually you'd better not as you might try and cook something else up against Jan!!
Here's one for you, if you and Onasled weren't on so much of a witch hunt then neither of the threads would have been started. You 2 need to go back to that rock you crawled out from underneath of, actually you'd better not as you might try and cook something else up against Jan!!
that's just funny! guess it dosnt matter if a vendor lies about designing a part when they did not? to lie about something so trivial just raises questions about that vendor and what else are they lieing about? again I have not heard any BAD stuff about Jan's parts as in the way they perfrom the price the support. but when asked a very simple question it some how turnes into a witch hung??? I think you are reading too much into the whole thing!
Yes the question asked was what you said, but there is a few years history between Jan and onasled so really there was more behind that simple question. I really doubt that onasled would ever buy anything from RMW because of that history, so the when he asked the question, it was basically to do waht it did, discredit and take business away from RMW. If you have questions about Jan's products, call or email him and make up your own mind. There is a reason that people come on here and defend his reputation when it is attacked
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From: Flitwick UK
Well the original Newmans cam went 108.4mph (twice) today at 2488lb with a POS header / cat back and tune that doesn't work.Congrats Jove on the smashing the old world record, also he was the first to ever go 106, 107 and 108, ET was 13.1and 13.2 on Parada Spec 11 and pump gas, no water /meth and no nitrous
I have to wonder if Jan left the Mini Community would people be happy or would they look for the next vendor to drive away? Come on we should all have learned from the past(Yes including me) that if you dont like a company just dont buy their parts or services and Nam needs to stop driving vendors away.
why is this still going on????
Well the original Newmans cam went 108.4mph (twice) today at 2488lb with a POS header / cat back and tune that doesn't work.Congrats Jove on the smashing the old world record, also he was the first to ever go 106, 107 and 108, ET was 13.1and 13.2 on Parada Spec 11 and pump gas, no water /meth and no nitrous
With the RMW boys, having an extra 20-30hp, should be able to smash those numbers
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From: NJerz
. It reminds me of when Lennie realizes that face cards are the same on both ends in Of Mice and Men: "It's the same, George; why is it both ends is the same..."I like that everyone has agendas against everyone else because it makes this forum perfect for why I visit these days: entertainment. Every now and again I feel a slight pang of masculine insecurity because my car would probably not dyno as well as everyone else's, but then I step back to my world in which I love driving my car and learning to drive it better regardless of how many hamsters I have under the hood. It's nice, my dream world. Apparently not as nice as everyone else's!
And as a service to the community, cliff's notes thus far:
- the cam works.
- if you care where it came from or who designed it, inquire within.
- picking up the phone > getting information from here.
- if you think everything a vendor tells you is 100% in YOUR best interest, you're a bit naive. They're in business to make a profit.
In some way or another this will end up benefitting the community. It seems like some custom cams are on the way to make even more power. Yahoo for us!
mb
Congrats to Jove for putting down a great number .
Nice to know that when I wanted a head for my Mini I spent months searching and ended up with RMW. I felt it was the best head on the market and now Jove holds the record with that same "RMW head". Awesome.
Q-4000.
The cam in my 300whp SC RMW is the same one you call the "street cam".
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.Nice to know that when I wanted a head for my Mini I spent months searching and ended up with RMW. I felt it was the best head on the market and now Jove holds the record with that same "RMW head". Awesome.
Q-4000.
The cam in my 300whp SC RMW is the same one you call the "street cam".
Longboard
That GTT header has primaries that are to small. Then it's followed up with a Borla that's again has a tubing dia that is to small. Yes it works and works well but he "is" leaving some power on the table.
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From: Flitwick UK
didn't want congrats big howe, just wanted to share with the community what the original cam can do for like minded people.
Obviously the USA cars will be faster as you're generating more trq / hp everywhere with the complete system
Obviously the USA cars will be faster as you're generating more trq / hp everywhere with the complete system
