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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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Before or after the SAE correction

ROFLMAO......... dude is delusional as usual

Paul's never met a dyno sheet or track time he can't bust a calculator over....

and come up grasping........
 

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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 06:31 PM
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 06:32 PM
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Well spotted big howe I didn't correct Shawns shop guys figures.

So you multipy by 1.092550648 now
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 06:35 PM
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Paul, I think you forgot to correct my employee's traps to sea level standard. According to density altitude calcs, his best trap speed corrected to sea level standard would be about 112.x mph while Jove's trap corrected to sea level standard day would be about 106.x

If you simply enter the corrected trap speed of 112 for my employee into your spreadsheet, you get a correction factor of 1.002. Unless I missed something in your calcs...

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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 06:36 PM
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ROFLMAO. Must be the bottle.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by big howe
ROFLMAO. Must be the bottle.

he's going the wrong way down a one way street

this is so classic
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Churchautotest
Paul, I think you forgot to correct my employee's traps to sea level standard. According to density altitude calcs, his best trap speed corrected to sea level standard would be about 112.x mph while Jove's trap corrected to sea level standard day would be about 106.x

If you simply enter the corrected trap speed of 112 for my employee into your spreadsheet, you get a correction factor of 1.002. Unless I missed something in your calcs...

SC
Cheers Shawn for that corrected that now so the new figure is

multiply by 1.035060098
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Webster
Cheers Shawn for that corrected that now so the new figure is

multiply by 1.035060098

please Paul.... LET YOUR 9yr OLD do your calculations

they will come out much closer than your attempts
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 06:40 PM
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Paul, just to clarify for Shawn, are you posting SAE corrected numbers from Thor's? I did not appear so before.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 06:42 PM
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I suppose he didn't dyno on the day then go to the drags?? or have you any records of him dynoing and racing afterwards / that weekend
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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No, but his car is ultra consistent. Its probably made over 500 passes on the dyno over the years in various configs.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 06:49 PM
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Paul, I don't understand what you are getting at. If you are going to multiply a dyno to dyno correction factor of 1.035 to your Thor Dynapak number, that number should be SAE corrected.
The 238 put up at Thor's is closer to a 231 in my rough calc, therefore your comparison to Churches puts it at a 239whp.

Please feel free to clarify your information for everyone.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 07:01 PM
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Thing is I dont know what the correction factor would of been used on that day, If we would of found that link to that article we posted earlier we would of known what to look for.

Ours automatically corrects to SAE, I just thought all of tehm do that, I'll ring him today and find out what it should of been
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Webster
Thing is I dont know what the correction factor would of been used on that day, If we would of found that link to that article we posted earlier we would of known what to look for.

Ours automatically corrects to SAE, I just thought all of tehm do that, I'll ring him today and find out what it should of been
all you have to do is click SAE on the graph under Setup/System/ SAE

very very simple... it will auto correct your power numbers
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 07:14 PM
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shouldn't it read at the top un-corrected or corrected?
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 07:15 PM
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ROFLMAO. Must be the bottle.
Originally Posted by Revolution Mini Works
he's going the wrong way down a one way street

this is so classic
The Jan & Big Howe Show... Love it!

 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Webster
shouldn't it read at the top un-corrected or corrected?

post your dyno and I'll show you where it reads
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Webster
Cheers Shawn for that corrected that now so the new figure is

multiply by 1.035060098
I'm glad we're all in agreement. Hopefully everyone can get back enjoying their cars, and finding more power.

Cheers.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 08:52 PM
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Hey how much is the LB Air Chamber & the LB Super Scoop ?

Sounds quite cool as a company name LB
These are very high end exclusive products Paul. You really don't want to know the cost because you can't afford it .

Those items were named as a joke. Both are very "cool" but all you need is about $20, a Dremel and some of your time .

I like Cheap stuff as well.

Now back to your **** fight Paul. Which one are you by the way??

 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Churchautotest
BTW, while it isn't a Mini, and I'm not a fan of the whole "trap speed as a measure of hp",
I think this is a prime example of how a drag race does not indicate WHP.

http://www.eurotuner.com/features/eu...ion/index.html

Here you have Brian's MINI which makes over 500 whp not doing well because he could not get good traction
 
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Old Feb 3, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by batrugger
I think this is a prime example of how a drag race does not indicate WHP.

http://www.eurotuner.com/features/eu...ion/index.html

Here you have Brian's MINI which makes over 500 whp not doing well because he could not get good traction

1/4mi racing isn't about trap speed, it's about who gets there first in the shortest amount of time.... not the guy with the highest speed

I have used the same example in other threads but it some how gets "explained" away time and time again......... If you want a hp reading go to the dyno... you want an experiment in driving go to the track
 
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by batrugger
Here you have Brian's MINI which makes over 500 whp not doing well because he could not get good traction
15.32 @ 107.66mph

"With VF setting the fastest FWD time, Fireballed! persisted in their attempt to set a fast time. However, traction was still proving an issue, even with the boost turned right down. The team estimated they were only producing about 330hp by the final run..."
 
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BigShow
15.32 @ 107.66mph

"With VF setting the fastest FWD time, Fireballed! persisted in their attempt to set a fast time. However, traction was still proving an issue, even with the boost turned right down. The team estimated they were only producing about 330hp by the final run..."

here goes that ugly calculator again

so Jove has 330hp? He went 108 right?
 
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 05:38 AM
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Weight of cars??... Thought you said you did physics!
 
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Old Feb 4, 2009 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BigShow
Weight of cars??... Thought you said you did physics!
touche......

but as the article said.... "they guessed" that they were down to 330hp until the engine let go....
 
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