Drivetrain (Cooper S) MINI Cooper S (R53) intakes, exhausts, pulleys, headers, throttle bodies, and any other modifications to the Cooper S drivetrain.

Drivetrain KMT pulley any new thoughts

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 1, 2009 | 11:03 AM
  #1  
mach schnell's Avatar
mach schnell
Thread Starter
|
4th Gear
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 465
Likes: 0
From: right behind you!
KMT pulley any new thoughts

okay - i know this pulley was reviewed last year - it's on ebay for $50 and $10 s/h which is phenomenal. Just wondering if i can get comments from anyone who's had it for a while - problems, satisfaction, installation, etc.

and, danny (minicorsa) if you happen by this thread - have you installed any of these pulleys?
 
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2009 | 04:19 PM
  #2  
Professor's Avatar
Professor
5th Gear
iTrader: (11)
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 828
Likes: 1
Let me just say this. I bought a pulley for my Mini on Ebay and have had noting but problems out of it. Its not self centering and tends to walk even after it been re tightened. This makes for bad belt alignment and squeeks!

I went to Way for a solution.
 

Last edited by Professor; Jan 1, 2009 at 06:29 PM.
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2009 | 05:02 PM
  #3  
D-MAN's Avatar
D-MAN
5th Gear
15 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 628
Likes: 0
From: Australia
Check out
http://www.mini2.com/forum/engine-dr...on-pulley.html

There are a lot of European guys with these pulleys on their cars with no problems.

Also Fisher on minitorque has all the KMT products on his car and it is quick...
http://www.minitorque.com/forum/f249...107-07-a-1633/

Hope this helps
 
Reply
Old Jan 5, 2009 | 03:26 PM
  #4  
NewMINI2's Avatar
NewMINI2
1st Gear
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by mach schnell
okay - i know this pulley was reviewed last year - it's on ebay for $50 and $10 s/h which is phenomenal. Just wondering if i can get comments from anyone who's had it for a while - problems, satisfaction, installation, etc.

and, danny (minicorsa) if you happen by this thread - have you installed any of these pulleys?
No problem has been report to date. Also I use one of it (11%) and works fine without fiting problems.
 
Reply
Old Jan 5, 2009 | 06:58 PM
  #5  
MINIGURU@WAY MOTOR WORKS's Avatar
MINIGURU@WAY MOTOR WORKS
Vendor
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,152
Likes: 1
From: Atlanta/Indianapolis
Remember the old saying, You get what you pay for.

I carry several brands of quality pullies and the prices aren't bad.
 
__________________
www.WayMotorWorks.com 2006 & 2007 NAMCC Overall Champion
Alta,M7,Helix,Wilwood,H-sport,Milltek,CROSS,Craven,DDM,H&R,Megan,Carbotech,EBC,Forge,TSW,Powerflex
Reply
Old Jan 5, 2009 | 08:12 PM
  #6  
mach schnell's Avatar
mach schnell
Thread Starter
|
4th Gear
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 465
Likes: 0
From: right behind you!
Originally Posted by MINIGURU@WAY MOTOR WORKS
Remember the old saying, You get what you pay for.

I carry several brands of quality pullies and the prices aren't bad.
totally know that - but again, if he's making a stainless steel (presuming that's what it is) pulley much like m7 and he's not inflating the costs because he doesn't have a big website and image/ advertising etc to maintain, then what i'm paying for is the same quality at a lower price - which ultimately means more $ for other parts/ugrades.

however, the fact that not many ppl on nam or mu are using this pulley (or at least giving reports) may be enough to warrant paying the extra for an alta, m7, mini-madness, way, helix, etc..... b/c the last thing i'd wanna do is kill my engine for saving 50 bucks!

definitely on ebay you have the things to avoid - the dinky little $25 upper strut bars (cheap worthless crap). but, then there are the b&m knock off ssk's that seem to be just as good as the b&m. like farley said in tommy boy you could sh$t in a box and write guaranteed on it and all you have is a guaranteed POS.

just trying to research all angles before pulling the trigger seeing if the opportunity to save $ is a good one.

can you pm me with prices of what you have in stock?
 
Reply
Old Jan 5, 2009 | 11:38 PM
  #7  
Some Guy's Avatar
Some Guy
6th Gear
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,798
Likes: 11
From: CT
It's a block of metal with clamp. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to make one just a competent machinist.

Here is a fairly large review of it.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...mt-pulley.html
 
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2009 | 12:10 AM
  #8  
mach schnell's Avatar
mach schnell
Thread Starter
|
4th Gear
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 465
Likes: 0
From: right behind you!
Originally Posted by Some Guy
It's a block of metal with clamp. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to make one just a competent machinist.

Here is a fairly large review of it.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...mt-pulley.html
yup read that thread several months ago and again just before i started this thread. was hoping there was some new insight, additional feedback to add to that previous thread.

i just want to establish that this has been designed by a competent machinist - mini2 forum had a fairly large thread about - one guy salt tested it against the alta - 96 hrs vs 240 hrs. not entirely sure tho how that translates to real world application. and, from what i've read on that forum, it has some kind of gold plating (and some1 on mu speculated it's not stainless steel - i'm waiting for a response from kavs re: the material of the pulley and the bolts).
 
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2009 | 01:22 AM
  #9  
Eric_Rowland's Avatar
Eric_Rowland
OVERDRIVE
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (3)
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 13,382
Likes: 47
From: Santa Cruz, CA
My $0.02 - Go for a name brand, from a relatively local company. At a pulley party (obviously a while ago) Randy Webb showed me an ebay pulley. It wasn't pretty. (No, I didn't buy a pulley from Randy.) Perhaps the one you get will be perfect. But as you say, are you willing to take the risk? If it causes you to jack up your engine one more time to adjust the alignment, or cuts a belt, would it be worth it? Even if it DOESN'T, are you going to be thinking about it? If there's an issue can you call the ebay guy?

There are lots of places to save $50. A pulley on a vital component of the most vital component of a $20K car is not that place, IMO. Want to save $50? Get an HAI instead of a CAI, or a cheaper version of a CAI.

I'm cheap as anyone, but that's one place I didn't cheap out on. (Ok, I lied - I got one at AMVIV for $165, including installation. Screamin' deal.)
 
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2009 | 05:14 AM
  #10  
NewMINI2's Avatar
NewMINI2
1st Gear
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Do you really believe the making pulley cost 100+ USD? Please guys.
 
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2009 | 07:02 AM
  #11  
mach schnell's Avatar
mach schnell
Thread Starter
|
4th Gear
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 465
Likes: 0
From: right behind you!
Originally Posted by NewMINI2
Do you really believe the making pulley cost 100+ USD? Please guys.
i don't. i don't imagine it cost much more than $20-30/item (and that may even be high). as i posted on mu - i worked in r&d in the sunglass biz back in the 90's. $180 oakley's cost sunglass hut $90/ea to buy - for oakley maybe they cost $45 (and that's after you've factored in r&d, advertising, marketing, etc). the sport glasses i was designing utilized both complex optics and mechanical tech but at the end of the day, per piece we could manufacture the glasses, packaging, warranty insert, cleaning cloth and a cool little sticker for under $30. but, since we wanted the the glasses to purchased by serious sports enthusiasts (in other words, the snowboarder, mtn biker, skier, etc who spent at least, if not more than $500 per year on new sports equipment - vs the occassional enthusiast who might spend $100-200 total on equipment over the life of the time they play the sport) - we were shooting for a retail price of $150/pair. that meant, specific product placement (sunglass hut, high end sporting goods stores - rather than discount retailers, etc) and brand identity. sure we could have sold the glasses for $70 or even $50 retail and made money (again, the way manufacturing worked - once we paid off initial dye molds and then shifted manufacturing to a high volume plant - price per item could get as low as $10) but when people are paying >$120 for oakley, revo, gargoyle - they believe that price equates to quality and to some degree the new player on the block has to subscribe to that consumers mentality in order to secure their purchase.

so far we have a lot of ppl's opinion based largely on where kmt is primarily sold (ebay) and that it's half the cost of the known US vendors. still hoping for some nam or mu users who can report on experience with the product.
 
Reply
Old Jan 6, 2009 | 09:32 AM
  #12  
mach schnell's Avatar
mach schnell
Thread Starter
|
4th Gear
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 465
Likes: 0
From: right behind you!
so from kavs - the pulley is from steel with a galvanic coat and the bolts are 12.8
 
Reply
Old Jan 12, 2009 | 10:56 PM
  #13  
NewMINI2's Avatar
NewMINI2
1st Gear
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by mach schnell
so from kavs - the pulley is from steel with a galvanic coat and the bolts are 12.8
KMT is direct supplier, not the vendor who get the pulleys elswhere and then he just selling them.
From here is the lower price.
 
Reply
Old Jan 13, 2009 | 02:55 AM
  #14  
chris.j.lamb's Avatar
chris.j.lamb
4th Gear
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 395
Likes: 6
I have a KMT pully fitted to my car.
I bought it direct from KMT, excellent order process (paypal) and fast shipping to UK.
My fitter has much MINI experience and they fitted it AOK and commented that it looked and felt as good as any other one that they have fitted.
NO problems with this.
So far have only done about 1000 miles on it.
To me the KMT pulley is excellent value for money.
 
Reply
Old Jan 13, 2009 | 07:07 AM
  #15  
mach schnell's Avatar
mach schnell
Thread Starter
|
4th Gear
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 465
Likes: 0
From: right behind you!
Originally Posted by chris.j.lamb
I have a KMT pully fitted to my car.
I bought it direct from KMT, excellent order process (paypal) and fast shipping to UK.
My fitter has much MINI experience and they fitted it AOK and commented that it looked and felt as good as any other one that they have fitted.
NO problems with this.
So far have only done about 1000 miles on it.
To me the KMT pulley is excellent value for money.
cool - thanks for the input. please give us regular updates here on NAM - i think if the products like KMT's pulley turn out to be a good value they'll drive some new competition for our existing vendors. competition is good for everyone!
 
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 07:30 AM
  #16  
Aeromax's Avatar
Aeromax
5th Gear
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 685
Likes: 1
From: Trumbull, CT
I bought a KMT pulley from Fisher, real name Ambroz, who is the individual who makes them in the family's pulley factory in Slovenia. I've spoken with him personally via email about his pulley, and other products he has made. Some friends and I purchased three pulleys at once from him for $67 a piece after shipping. The material is aluminized steel. I've had mine on for a year and a half now.

I installed the pulley myself, so my experience is to be taken with a grain of salt... I experienced some slipping with a JCW belt. I changed to a gatorback, and solved the issue. I also had some shaft slippage the winter after I installed it, but that was cured by adding red loctite to the shaft, and have had no issues. The other two cars involved in the install have had neither of the issues I've described. The design of the pulley seems identical to other two-peice, 4-bolt pulleys on the market. And for those of you that think it's bad for not being mad eout of fancy aluminum or stainless, or hell even titanium, I acn say that the pulley looks and operates just fine.

If you like bling, fancy tuner name brands, and the thought of having stainless or aluminim under the hood comforts you for some reason, this is not the pulley for you.
 
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 09:13 AM
  #17  
MrCooperS's Avatar
MrCooperS
Moderator
iTrader: (4)
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 2,457
Likes: 7
From: Boston, MA.
A extra $50 bucks for insurance and ease of mind is something I'd be willing to pay for ANY day.
 
Reply
Old Apr 16, 2009 | 02:21 PM
  #18  
Aeromax's Avatar
Aeromax
5th Gear
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 685
Likes: 1
From: Trumbull, CT
Ok, well.. whatever makes people feel better!
 
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2009 | 08:27 AM
  #19  
mininuke's Avatar
mininuke
3rd Gear
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 175
Likes: 0
From: Bellingham, WA
I have in my car and so far it has not fallen off. Although I'm not 100% confident with it. It didn't seem to me that it is tight enough. Nice supercharger whine.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Alkaidovich
Interior/Exterior
68
Jan 30, 2021 01:35 AM
techgearpro
1st Gen Countryman (R60) Talk (2010-2015)
9
Jul 23, 2019 07:09 PM
The_Kid
MINI Parts for Sale
6
Nov 3, 2016 06:30 PM
Hippiehobbit267
MINI Parts for Sale
0
Sep 1, 2015 06:13 PM
eric0919
MINI Parts for Sale
0
Aug 30, 2015 11:14 AM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:43 PM.