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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 02:17 PM
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Ultrik camshaft>?

Do i have to clearance the spark plug tubes to make it fit?
Anyone have one what do they think?
 
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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 02:25 PM
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clearance for cam

Yes you will need to slightly dimple the sparkplug tubes so that the cam lobes don't bump them.Sparkplug tubes can be dimpled properly by placing a sparplug socket in the tube and tapping a ball peen hammer over the right spot where the cam lobe would hit the tube.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 06:19 PM
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I PM'd you Colin.

Here's what I found comparing my Stock Cam to the Ultrik Cam.

Stock cam total lobe diameters were:
Intake: 35.25mm
Exhaust: 35.62mm

Ultrik cam total lobe diameters were:
Intake: 35.82mm
Exhaust: 36.25mm


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Old Jul 4, 2008 | 06:29 PM
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I found a pic of the Ultrik Cam just placed in the cam bearings of course just after tapping the spark plug tubes. There's the #1 exhaust lobe with enough clearance(you probably can't really see the clearance-it's there I tell you!).

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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 08:57 AM
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Just buy the RMW cam, it fits without dinking the spark plugs tubes
 
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 09:15 AM
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Yeah I've heard that the RMW cam has not interference issues. I wonder what the lift is on the exhaust then?

There's a growing number of RMW cam users out there so it seems to work well!

Jeremy
 
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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Jaw F430 Read my signature..
I have the RMW cam. Im putting this in a friends car.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by silversmoke06
Jaw F430 Read my signature..
I have the RMW cam. Im putting this in a friends car.

Tell your friend to buy one then
 
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 11:54 AM
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but 140 shipped for a ultrik vs 436 with tax hmm make the smart decision.
and hes been in my car. he knows what hes missing.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 11:54 AM
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dont have to have all Rmw parts geeze
 
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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Why not?
 
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by silversmoke06
dont have to have all Rmw parts geeze

The people who want to go fast do

P.S have you got any sound clips of your car with the shorty with the milltek?
 
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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but 140 shipped for a ultrik vs 436 with tax hmm make the smart decision.
and hes been in my car. he knows what hes missing.

you get what you pay for
 
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 07:53 PM
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Actualy i do have youtube videos of my car with the miltek and the shorty...
Its pretty great. I love the sound. took some getting use to.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jhiggs26
Yeah I've heard that the RMW cam has not interference issues. I wonder what the lift is on the exhaust then?

There's a growing number of RMW cam users out there so it seems to work well!

Jeremy
I wish I had before and after dyno runs for all my mods, but my car is SUBSTANTIALLY faster after my head, header and CAM install. Obviously I cant say the gains were from one mod, but all three on top of what I had before, made HUGE gains! My mechanic did a great job port and polishing my head, and told me that the RMW cam install was as easy as installing the stock one.

I will have the final #'s in 8 days! yea! but from what my car feels like now. I am very happy I got the cam while I had my car apart! If I would have done all the mods, without it, I am sure I wouldnt have had such good results.


The only way I can explain how much better the car feels, is to say it is like being in 50* weather when its 95* out and never having heat soak! Its super strong all the way to redline! lovin it is all I should have said....
 
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 09:00 PM
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All good stuff there El Griton!

There were two things I noticed after my Ultrik Cam install:

1) There was a minor decrease in part throttle accelereation(in vacuum with BPV open). Under boost things seemed peachy.

2) Idle is more variable.

Now running with the Clutch Masters flywheel there's no decrease in part throttle acceleration.

The Vancouver Mini Club is trying to put together a 'run what you brung' dyno day this summer. I'll try to get an Air/Fuel plot to see if my stock 340cc injectors are all good up top.

Jeremy
 
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Revolution Mini Works
you get what you pay for
I own the car in question. The Ultrik cam is a $400 dollar part, as is your cam, and if I could afford to buy new, I'd buy yours. I am, in fact, saving up to get a tune from you, which I felt was more important than getting the best cam. I also wanted to get as much gear in as I could, beforehand, so that the tune would provide uber numbers on the dyno, thereby providing the benefits that I'm looking for.

I want the car to feel like it has power to burn, brimming with torque, so I can take 'em off the line and stay in front, and I want to be able to take the 110 shortcut to work every morning (i.e.- drive at 110mph to get there!)

I haven't been doing this for long, but it seems like you should proceed just like you would with any important purchase:
  • You determine your goals.
  • You do the research to determine which parts will best fulfill those goals.
  • You make choices on what to invest in, to get the biggest bang for the buck.
  • You then follow that upgrade path, as your budget allows.
After having talked to you, Danny B, and Colin, I decided to get a 17% pulley for big gains at a low price, an airbox to get the car breathing in more efficiently, a cam to crank the torque, *possibly* a header (still need to do the research), and then an RMW tune to get everything in sync.

My budget barely allows these mods...well, actually...I'm already over budget. So, if you or anyone else here has advice on how to reach my goals more efficiently, to make my Mini the insane-in-the-drivetrain, land-rocket that it's deserves to be, I'm a good listener.

Thanks,

.k
 
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 09:03 PM
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The RMW cam is the only cam to go with. You definitely get what you pay for. I got 10ftlb's more at 3000 over the stock cam.

The Ultrik is cheap because it doesnt produce. You will actually lose HP and TQ down low. Mids might be the same as stock and you might get a little boost up top.

The RMW cam has proven to give around 7-10ftlbs across the board . There is a car in the UK that got 15ftlb's and 20HP from the RMW cam. While it could be a freak it's still awesome.

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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by djflippy
I own the car in question. The Ultrik cam is a $400 dollar part, as is your cam, and if I could afford to buy new, I'd buy yours. I am, in fact, saving up to get a tune from you, which I felt was more important than getting the best cam. I also wanted to get as much gear in as I could, beforehand, so that the tune would provide uber numbers on the dyno, thereby providing the benefits that I'm looking for.

I want the car to feel like it has power to burn, brimming with torque, so I can take 'em off the line and stay in front, and I want to be able to take the 110 shortcut to work every morning (i.e.- drive at 110mph to get there!)

I haven't been doing this for long, but it seems like you should proceed just like you would with any important purchase:
  • You determine your goals.
  • You do the research to determine which parts will best fulfill those goals.
  • You make choices on what to invest in, to get the biggest bang for the buck.
  • You then follow that upgrade path, as your budget allows.
After having talked to you, Danny B, and Colin, I decided to get a 17% pulley for big gains at a low price, an airbox to get the car breathing in more efficiently, a cam to crank the torque, *possibly* a header (still need to do the research), and then an RMW tune to get everything in sync.

My budget barely allows these mods...well, actually...I'm already over budget. So, if you or anyone else here has advice on how to reach my goals more efficiently, to make my Mini the insane-in-the-drivetrain, land-rocket that it's deserves to be, I'm a good listener.

Thanks,

.k
if you are looking for torque the schrick/ultrik is not the cam you seek

it's just as important to research exactly what those cams do
there is a reason Danny took out his schrick to get the torque he so desired
 
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 11:02 PM
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well i recomended it on a referal from a nam member. If this is not what DjFilippy is looking for ill help him find a deal on a diffrent one or something of that nature.
I reccomended it to him so i want to make sure hes happy.
And yes Jan yours is pretty nifty being its what i have in my car.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 10:15 AM
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Okay, that advice helps. Anyone whose priority is not the low-end torque, feel free to buy this cam in the marketplace, for the same $140 price that I paid.

Next question:

For my needs, what are the benefits and drawbacks of an RMW header, an OBX header, and stock?

Thanks,

.k
 
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by djflippy
Okay, that advice helps. Anyone whose priority is not the low-end torque, feel free to buy this cam in the marketplace, for the same $140 price that I paid.

Next question:

For my needs, what are the benefits and drawbacks of an RMW header, an OBX header, and stock?

Thanks,

.k
RMW:
Benefits = It's the best. It sounds like god made it (He did, his name is Jan). Power gains all over the rev range. Comes with cat.
Drawbacks = Pricey...but worth it!

OBX:
Benefits = Great low price. Great mid-range torque gains, especially for the price.
Drawbacks = Some of the newer versions are poorly constructed. Comes with no-cat.

Stock:
Benefits = Umm...nothing. It's quiet?
Drawbacks = Just look at it and you'll find your drawbacks. Restricts power potential.

Sounds like you're on a budget, so I'd recommend the OBX. It's not the best for sure, but for the price it can't be beat. I had one, and it DID produce gains on a dyno. Gave the car a nice midrange boost.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ThumperMCS
RMW:
Benefits = It's the best. It sounds like god made it (He did, his name is Jan). Power gains all over the rev range. Comes with cat.
Drawbacks = Pricey...but worth it!

OBX:
Benefits = Great low price. Great mid-range torque gains, especially for the price.
Drawbacks = Some of the newer versions are poorly constructed. Comes with no-cat.

Stock:
Benefits = Umm...nothing. It's quiet?
Drawbacks = Just look at it and you'll find your drawbacks. Restricts power potential.



Sounds like you're on a budget, so I'd recommend the OBX. It's not the best for sure, but for the price it can't be beat. I had one, and it DID produce gains on a dyno. Gave the car a nice midrange boost.
Not as pricey as miltek though!
 
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Old Jul 11, 2008 | 07:54 PM
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I wouldent say no to the obx just i know there has been some potential issues.
That aside im kinda thinking that my Rmw is leaking to be completely honest...
Anyway moving on.
Its just a luck of the draw with the obx if you were to do it i would say put stiffer motor mounts into the car to restrict the engine movement. to keep that little flexjoint intact. seems to be their weakpoint.
 
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