Drivetrain New M7 CAI!
You can't even compare the M7 velocity stack with the GTT one. IMHO the M7 one is a joke! I have several M7 products and I'm happy with them, but the this product has me rethinking my faith in their products. A velocity stack should smooth out the airflow, that's why it supposed to have a megaphone shape to it...but look the the pictures posted on the M7 website:

That's design will disrupt airflow more than anything!!! And where's the rolled lip? Was any thought given to the length of the stack? Sorry, I'm not usually one to rant, but I just can't help myself this time.

That's design will disrupt airflow more than anything!!! And where's the rolled lip? Was any thought given to the length of the stack? Sorry, I'm not usually one to rant, but I just can't help myself this time.

Yes, THAT'S a velocity stack. I'm familiar with the GTT intake, just can't justify the cost, especially with the weak US dollar. Also, I'm not crazy about how the top of the filter is set up.
I thank those of you that have contributed constructively. Its good to see you guys coming out with info thats useful
That GTT system is crazy looking. What is the pinwheel of death looking thing thats sitting next to it? Does it sit inside the filter at the end or something? Looks like a foam end that pops in and out for easy cleaning perhaps?
So, if the M7 velocity stack had a little tweaking then this would be a pretty desirable piece it sounds like.

I'm sure that this type of constructive criticism is appreciated by any vendor
Last edited by Intense; Feb 25, 2008 at 07:00 PM.
It is a knock-off. What more do you want. Randy claims it is a new from the ground up design. Funny that it looks like so many others.
The Pipercross system shows the end-cap filter. The springs hold it onto the base of the filter with the center going over the open end.
The Pipercross system shows the end-cap filter. The springs hold it onto the base of the filter with the center going over the open end.
I hope that it is at least somewhat constructive...even if this is a bit of a broken record...(not the concept, just the CAIs in general...and the antics in many of the threads).
How much different do you expect it to look on the outside?
Not all of them use the stock lower box. CravenSpeed's replaces the entire OEM box. I don't know of any others as I've never tried or fitted any others.
It is a knock-off. What more do you want. Randy claims it is a new from the ground up design. Funny that it looks like so many others.
The Pipercross system shows the end-cap filter. The springs hold it onto the base of the filter with the center going over the open end.
The Pipercross system shows the end-cap filter. The springs hold it onto the base of the filter with the center going over the open end.
When I think knock off I think of a "copy". Now keep in mind that there obviously is only so many things that can be done with an intake system and to that point they all look similar. With this particular one M7 has actually tried to come up with something they can call their own. They added a "velocity stack" or at least attempted to. Granted from info in this thread its not a great one and I'm sure their reading, hense the point of this discussion.
For you to say its a knock off and like so many others hell dude, they all look alike. Did you put this much effort into any of the other companies cai releases? Just curious...
I like M7 products just as much as I like Craven or RMW or Alta. I think they all make great products and they continue to make their existing ones better. Take Craven for instance. They just redesigned there cold air intake just recently. I don't see you talking it up in that thread at all. What's the difference? Why the anergy from you towards M7?
Thanks for the info, I did not (obviously)know that. I think you still got the point I was making to ScottinBend.
I guess your terminology confuses me
When I think knock off I think of a "copy". Now keep in mind that there obviously is only so many things that can be done with an intake system and to that point they all look similar. With this particular one M7 has actually tried to come up with something they can call their own. They added a "velocity stack" or at least attempted to. Granted from info in this thread its not a great one and I'm sure their reading, hense the point of this discussion.
For you to say its a knock off and like so many others hell dude, they all look alike. Did you put this much effort into any of the other companies cai releases? Just curious...
I like M7 products just as much as I like Craven or RMW or Alta. I think they all make great products and they continue to make their existing ones better. Take Craven for instance. They just redesigned there cold air intake just recently. I don't see you talking it up in that thread at all. What's the difference? Why the anergy from you towards M7?
When I think knock off I think of a "copy". Now keep in mind that there obviously is only so many things that can be done with an intake system and to that point they all look similar. With this particular one M7 has actually tried to come up with something they can call their own. They added a "velocity stack" or at least attempted to. Granted from info in this thread its not a great one and I'm sure their reading, hense the point of this discussion.
For you to say its a knock off and like so many others hell dude, they all look alike. Did you put this much effort into any of the other companies cai releases? Just curious...
I like M7 products just as much as I like Craven or RMW or Alta. I think they all make great products and they continue to make their existing ones better. Take Craven for instance. They just redesigned there cold air intake just recently. I don't see you talking it up in that thread at all. What's the difference? Why the anergy from you towards M7?
You are correct sir! Sorry about that, I wish that thing was still being made.... I would own one for sure
It is a knock-off. What more do you want. Randy claims it is a new from the ground up design. Funny that it looks like so many others.
The Pipercross system shows the end-cap filter. The springs hold it onto the base of the filter with the center going over the open end.
The Pipercross system shows the end-cap filter. The springs hold it onto the base of the filter with the center going over the open end.
Last edited by DjR53; Feb 25, 2008 at 09:42 PM. Reason: .
So do you have the GTT cai?
I could be completely wrong here, but wasn't M7 originally selling a relabel DDM intake not too long ago? This "new" intake looks just like the DDM, minus a couple of screws for the lid, add a bit longer filter and a "velocity stack." That is what this is, correct?
Oh, and just for the record I have a DDM intake and I'm very happy with it.
Oh, and just for the record I have a DDM intake and I'm very happy with it.
a velocity stack seems like it wouldn't do squat north of the super charger. And I have personally doubted that the mini ever pulls air into the cowl once under way. I think that sitting idle yes of course it does, so as far as recovery, it's worthwhile put while under motion I figure it's not going to do anything.
Please some one with some more technical knowledge tell me that i'm wrong.
Otherwise it's more of the same. "Polishing Turds" as a wise man I know once said.
All of these airboxes are pretty much the same. Especially the metal ones. Like phil said these cars pull air in fast enough where it doesn't matter all that much.
One thing that is for sure is these huge foam filter open boxes are dyno queens. They will always show their results on the dyno but in real application will do not much more then make more noise.
Please some one with some more technical knowledge tell me that i'm wrong.
Otherwise it's more of the same. "Polishing Turds" as a wise man I know once said.
All of these airboxes are pretty much the same. Especially the metal ones. Like phil said these cars pull air in fast enough where it doesn't matter all that much. One thing that is for sure is these huge foam filter open boxes are dyno queens. They will always show their results on the dyno but in real application will do not much more then make more noise.
if thats a picture of whats in the m7 box then its not a velocity stack.id call it a reducer.i have the voltage products 53r and it has a real velocity stack inside.wont that long m7 filter get wet if it rains since it sticks out so far thru the cowl?
a velocity stack seems like it wouldn't do squat north of the super charger. And I have personally doubted that the mini ever pulls air into the cowl once under way. I think that sitting idle yes of course it does, so as far as recovery, it's worthwhile put while under motion I figure it's not going to do anything.
Please some one with some more technical knowledge tell me that i'm wrong.
Otherwise it's more of the same. "Polishing Turds" as a wise man I know once said.
All of these airboxes are pretty much the same. Especially the metal ones. Like phil said these cars pull air in fast enough where it doesn't matter all that much.
One thing that is for sure is these huge foam filter open boxes are dyno queens. They will always show their results on the dyno but in real application will do not much more then make more noise.
Please some one with some more technical knowledge tell me that i'm wrong.
Otherwise it's more of the same. "Polishing Turds" as a wise man I know once said.
All of these airboxes are pretty much the same. Especially the metal ones. Like phil said these cars pull air in fast enough where it doesn't matter all that much. One thing that is for sure is these huge foam filter open boxes are dyno queens. They will always show their results on the dyno but in real application will do not much more then make more noise.

Did you check out the link that I posted at/near the bottom of the 2nd page of this thread. I think it's really cool how different length of the velocity stacks benefit different rpm ranges b/c of the intake "pulses." So if you're on the track you'd go with a stack that's best when you're in the heart of the power curve, but on the street you could go with one that's better for low end power. That's some fine tuning!
Last edited by jaynicholson; Feb 25, 2008 at 09:11 PM.
Yes the filter will get wet, My DDM intake doesn't stick out quite that far and it get's wet. Doesn't make a difference with our cars though b/c the sc makes so much heat. If anything, a little water might help cool things off.
Where would someone get one of the "voltage products 53r" intakes?




