Alta makes a Intercooler Air Diverter that comes with spray, if you just installed the Intercooler Air Diverter would that be better than the stock because its
bigger or would you have to install the spray also. my concern is I am not very good at this stuff, I did my intake, and nology wires but I dont know if I could
do the sprayer thing, is it on a manual switch? Just a question, if anyone has this or knows about this let me know, Thanks

 

The sprayer simply tee's into your rear wiper fluid line. that's it! It is the easiest part of the diverter install. The most difficult part is getting the blue silicone hoses on your intercooler. :smile:

 

If you are really looking at cooling, I would consider a water to air intercooler....we have looked into the air diverters and even the sprayers and haven't been happy with anything we have tried yet...they don't give the consistent cooling, only when you press the button and that only lasts so long. Where as a water to air intercooler will give you constant benefits all the way through the heat cycle.

 

When might you have one of those available Casey? That or the cryo2 systems seem the best route to me.
Wes

 

I'm not real sure on the time frame...will be one to two months as we are making some changes to it that we feel will give even more gains. We want to make sure when we release it is the best it can be....I don't like to see products rushed to the market and people end up buying them before the product is ready. This happened with the B&M Short Shift kit - a few started selling them and then there was a design change...now everyone that would have gotten one of the early ones would be upset and want their money back or an exchange for the new design. Sign up for the ProMini mailing list at ProMini.com and once it is available an anouncement will be made on there first.

 

The thing about a larger intercooler diverter is that the hood scoop is still the same size, therefore pushing the same volume of air into the intercooler. So how is a larger diverter going to help anything?? It's not like you get more air or the intercooler is larger.

Water-to-air IS the way to go for consistantcy, but CO2 sprayer is the way to go for power.

R

 

i agree dave...just to make it clear...when i was dissing the sprayers...it was the water sprayers....i have not yet tested a co2 sprayer so I couldn't speak to the gains or losses there.

 

Of course once a good water to air kit exist, then the cryo2 fuel block can be used to chill the water also!

Wes

 

>>Of course once a good water to air kit exist, then the cryo2 fuel block can be used to chill the water also!
>>
>>Wes

Exactamundo!!!

R

 

the water to air cooler we have actually gives you the option of cooling the water with dry ice as well...you can run it with or without the dry ice.

 

Where can us non-chemists purchase dry ice? Besides using it for intercooling, it's great for making cool drinks.

 

Ice suppliers :smile: The people that bring the bags of ice for the machines outside of gas stations. Here in tyler it is called Tyler Ice....most cities should have one and if not a city near by will. Just ask next time at the gas station who supplies their ice.

 

You can also always order some Omaha steaks. They always send a big block of dry ice to play with, and the meats not bad either.

Wes

 

While I'm sure the cryo2 approach will yield more power generation due to it's colder temps over what water alone could do, that rapid of a temp drop (200+ degree) on aluminum sort of makes me cringe. Time, as always, will tell...

As I just told Randy yesterday (he was here in the Bay Area, CA), I want to put the water supply not in the passenger side cowl area, but where the driver-side muffler was located (I have the QS exhaust). I plan on making use of those hangers for that application. While not certain yet, I'd be able to fill it from the battery box or side compartment space. This would not only keep the water more cool back there, but also keep more weight from being added to the front of the MCS... I believe a gallon of water is about 8 lbs.

Should even be able to keep the water reasonably cool with a 12v power...

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Baskin Robins Ice Cream shops sell dry ice.

R

 

or, you can make your own:

HOW TO MAKE DRY ICE?
The manufacturing process of dry ice involves two steps. First, pure CO2 is expanded to a reduced pressure in a hydraulic press. The CO2 "snow" that is produced in this expansion is then compressed into pellets.
When CO2 is in its solid state (dry ice), it must be kept at -42 degrees centigrade. When solid CO2 is exposed to air, it converts back to its natural state, a gas.



I do think that a cigarette lighter (switched in my case b/c I use an SLA battery) chiller-like lunch box, holding the water reservoir is what I'm envisioning...

 

Most welding shops sell dry ice too. For what, I don't know.

 

TonyB - this is similar to what the ProMini water to air intercooler does. We located it in the back boot on one side - takes up less space then a small sub..only a bit more then the factory cd player. I don't like the idea of the water in the front for several reasons, weight, space, heat soak, etc.

 

Thanks Casey. I will take a look. I would put it below as I don't want to take-up permanent boot space. While the tank will avoid heat soak back there, the line running that length will see quite different temps at their respective ends also. I hope it (the hose) is something fairly well insulated. I will look now....

 

>>I do think that a cigarette lighter (switched in my case b/c I use an SLA battery)

Hey Tony, what exactly did you do with the cig lighter?

 

There are auto chill boxes that plug into cigarette lighters for power. They are typically used to put lunches and drinks, to keep them cool... I'm simply saying that the water reservoir can sit inside something like this to keep it relatively cool. Something I'm pondering if I decide to do this down the road...

Later this weekend I'm planning on installing a dual cig lighter in my European parcel shelf. I want swithced power there also. These would be to power/charge an ipod and cell phone. So, if you saw that on another thread, and was asking about that cig install, well, there you go...